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The problem with the figures quoted for player's contracts is the club will release the highest potential figure that contract could achieve, whilst those representing the player will probably quote the lowest base so we never truly know.

 

I seem to remember that when Colo first arrived, it was quoted that he was on £40k a week but once we got relegated, it became accepted that he was on £80k a week.

 

I would hope that the club do not stick so rigidly to their wages structure when a player is so valuable to the club and will be difficult to replace.

 

However, the way we seem to be doing player contracts seems to be pushing players out as compromise never seems to be an option.

 

A heavily incentised contract always sounds good in theory e.g. bonuses kick in if the team finish in the top 10 but if the club don't provide a strong enough squad to make that happen, then no matter how well a player performs personally, they will have no chance of earning those bonuses.

 

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The problem with the figures quoted for player's contracts is the club will release the highest potential figure that contract could achieve, whilst those representing the player will probably quote the lowest base so we never truly know.

 

I seem to remember that when Colo first arrived, it was quoted that he was on £40k a week but once we got relegated, it became accepted that he was on £80k a week.

 

I would hope that the club do not stick so rigidly to their wages structure when a player is so valuable to the club and will be difficult to replace.

 

However, the way we seem to be doing player contracts seems to be pushing players out as compromise never seems to be an option.

 

A heavily incentised contract always sounds good in theory e.g. bonuses kick in if the team finish in the top 10 but if the club don't provide a strong enough squad to make that happen, then no matter how well a player performs personally, they will have no chance of earning those bonuses.

 

 

Footy Man says £85k so im taking that as definite

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http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/09/11/putting-the-new-in-newcastle-after-vocal-barton-departs-dressing-room-79310-29399105/

 

Putting the new in Newcastle after vocal Barton departs dressing room

Sep 11 2011 by Mark Douglas, Sunday Sun

 

FABRICIO COLOCCINI believes a new Newcastle United will emerge in the wake of Joey Barton’s departure.

 

Quieter, most definitely, but possibly stronger as key men are forced to take on new responsibility as the memory of Barton fades.

 

The United skipper will lead his side into battle at Loftus Road tomorrow evening knowing that his leadership skills are under the microscope following the loss of one of the biggest voices in the Toon dressing room.

 

The fact that Barton will be making his bow in blue-and-white hoops following an acrimonious free transfer switch to South London just brings things into even sharper focus for the defender.

 

A surprising but popular choice for captaincy, Coloccini has been peerless on the pitch so far, but knows his leadership credentials will face an examination over the coming months – especially with unofficial leaders like Barton having departed.

 

Coloccini clearly wishes his former team-mate nothing but success at his new club, but is confident others can fill the void left by the midfield motor-mouth. As he acknowledges, they will need to as the nights draw in and a gruelling season kicks in.

 

“Joey was a very good team-mate. He was not a difficult man to work with – in fact, sometimes you need some players like that with character,” said Coloccini.

 

“When we are on the pitch we need players with character, players who want to go and win. Maybe you need players like that when you are battling against adversity.

 

“He always showed his character then, which is good. Sometimes when we did not have good times at the club or we were near the relegation, we needed that kind of player. Now it is up to those left to do that.

 

“Of course the dressing room is different without Joey. A lot of players have different styles. Some are quieter, some are like Joey with strong spirit. But it’s normal, a lot of dressing rooms are like that.

 

“Other players show themselves and their character in different ways. Joey was louder, maybe. But those differences are the same in all changing rooms.”

 

Elated at being named skipper, Coloccini has settled into the role well over the first weeks of the season.

 

His English has improved, he fulfills his media duties with little complaint and there is a clear affection for the club and support that he represents. “I know I am the leader. But it is no more pressure because these players have gone – I felt pressure from the moment I signed,” he said.

 

“For me it is so important to have the relationship I have with the supporters. I’m so proud of it.

 

“When I bring my family over, it is a proud moment when they sing my song. I feel like I am back home again, back home in Argentina.

 

“I want to go on the pitch, I want to win. I’m proud to be captain – I'm happy too. I was surprised – there was Joey, Harps, Smudger – they are all good players, experienced players and English too.

 

“For me it was like a present.”

 

If United’s supporters experienced frustration at the climax of the summer transfer window, there was at least a measure of relief that Coloccini remained.

 

Constantly linked with moves to Spain, the Argentina defender always maintained that he was happy to remain on Tyneside. But that didn’t stop the wicked whispers persisting – rumours that United fans found difficult to dismiss given the amount of mistrust that still persists among Toon supporters.

 

“I am happy the transfer window is shut,” he said.

 

“I said all along I wanted to stay here and now everyone knows I will be here and there will be no more speculation.

 

“I'm also happy because we had a good start to the season and we have signed new players, good players. We are looking forward now – to the future and for the team.”

 

 

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All things considered I struggle to think of a better defender in many many years of watching nufc.

 

Woodgate was better like.

 

I disagree.

Even if their ability is comparable colo wins hands down due to lifestyle,inspirational qualities and fitness.

 

Pretty much. In terms of raw ability, Woodgate slightly edges it for me. But in terms of what they have done/can do for the club, Colo pisses over him.

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I keep saying it BUT give this man a new contract asap

 

Can't see it happening. With Smith gone at the end of the season, Colo is the outlier of the wage bill and would have to swallow a severe wage cut for a longer contract.

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I keep saying it BUT give this man a new contract asap

 

Can't see it happening. With Smith gone at the end of the season, Colo is the outlier of the wage bill and would have to swallow a severe wage cut for a longer contract.

 

I agree, can't see it happening either BUT to me it would just highlight the problems of having such a strict wage structure

 

Without Colo we will be a poorer team, no doubt about it - he is worth the money he gets paid, value for money is what the management love to go on about and Colo certainly does provide value for money

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I keep saying it BUT give this man a new contract asap

 

Can't see it happening. With Smith gone at the end of the season, Colo is the outlier of the wage bill and would have to swallow a severe wage cut for a longer contract.

 

I agree, can't see it happening either BUT to me it would just highlight the problems of having such a strict wage structure

 

Without Colo we will be a poorer team, no doubt about it - he is worth the money he gets paid, value for money is what the management love to go on about and Colo certainly does provide value for money

 

It's very hard to keep players to a wage ceiling of 40k a week when you have one member in the sqaud on roughly double that amount. Not only would you be paying his wages, but also the extra amounts to keep other players happy given the pay disparity.

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I keep saying it BUT give this man a new contract asap

 

Can't see it happening. With Smith gone at the end of the season, Colo is the outlier of the wage bill and would have to swallow a severe wage cut for a longer contract.

 

I agree, can't see it happening either BUT to me it would just highlight the problems of having such a strict wage structure

 

Without Colo we will be a poorer team, no doubt about it - he is worth the money he gets paid, value for money is what the management love to go on about and Colo certainly does provide value for money

 

It's very hard to keep players to a wage ceiling of 40k a week when you have one member in the sqaud on roughly double that amount. Not only would you be paying his wages, but also the extra amounts to keep other players happy given the pay disparity.

 

Well it will be very hard to progress if we are not willing to pay players what they are worth

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Think one of the reasons Pardew made Colo captain was he's planning in advance being able to justify giving him a higher wage when contract talks come up next summer.

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