jdckelly Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 He most certainly will be in time but I know who I'd rather rely on at CB in the PL right now. you can't rely on taylor though, even ignoring the injuries he's too prone to ridiculous fuck ups Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Taylor is exactly where he belongs in the pecking order at the minute, he's an awful defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 nor is he more important to our future Come on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 To be honest, we could see something like Santon-Williamson-Taylor-Mbiwa across the back four for the next few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Taylor's never performed consistently to the level that Williamson has over the last 3 months (and whilst fitness has played a part, Taylor's certainly played for much longer periods). Make your own mind up about what that says about either of them, personally Taylor is very much 4th pick at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 nor is he more important to our future Come on. What? Mbiwa should be our first choice centre back for years to come. It's very debatable currently if there's even a future here for Taylor at the moment. Certainly if he wants first team football, which he's not reliable enough for mainly due to being injury prone, but also due to not being of the required quality for where we (should) want to be... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Taylor needs a game at cb, with colo out for several games we are a ban or one injury away from having to play him and he hasn't had any game time for months. MYM & willo after Debuchy is back. What? Are you suggesting we need to play Taylor so he gets some games under his belt just in case we need him in case of ban/injury to another player? You have more faith in Taylor to slot right back in without any competitive games than I do. When he gets up to speed he's a decent CB, when he's cold, coming in and out he's not so good. We've already had it this season where we were without 3 CB's (Mackems again) last season similar, in fact its pretty hard to go back and think to a season we haven't been hit twice like that, even today Colo out and Debuchy banned. Always seems to get us like that, i wouldn't put it past our luck for Willo or MYM to be unavailable before Colo returns, then Taylor's thrust right in to an unsettled back four which he hasn't played in for basically half a season. But aye, laugh at the notion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Of course Mbiwa's more important to our future. Goes without saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Taylor needs a game at cb, with colo out for several games we are a ban or one injury away from having to play him and he hasn't had any game time for months. MYM & willo after Debuchy is back. What? Are you suggesting we need to play Taylor so he gets some games under his belt just in case we need him in case of ban/injury to another player? You have more faith in Taylor to slot right back in without any competitive games than I do. When he gets up to speed he's a decent CB, when he's cold, coming in and out he's not so good. We've already had it this season where we were without 3 CB's (Mackems again) last season similar, in fact its pretty hard to go back and think to a season we haven't been hit twice like that, even today Colo out and Debuchy banned. Always seems to get us like that, i wouldn't put it past our luck for Willo or MYM to be unavailable before Colo returns, then Taylor's thrust right in to an unsettled back four which he hasn't played in for basically half a season. But aye, laugh at the notion. So rather than take that, what, 20% chance of needing to rely on Saylor if Mbiwa or Williamson get injured/banned, you would want us to throw Steven Taylor in cold 100% by our own choice, stating yourself he hasn't had any competitive games and it will most likely be a disaster..? And that's before getting into the dynamics of a Williamson - Saylor partnership, which would be immobile as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 If you don't see the FA cup game as the one game we've got coming up to play some of our squad which will be needed to see the season out then fine, there's nowt to discuss here. I do however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I do think Taylor is better than Williamson but there is no way he should be dropped right now. Taylor will have to wait for his chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Taylor's never performed consistently to the level that Williamson has over the last 3 months (and whilst fitness has played a part, Taylor's certainly played for much longer periods). Make your own mind up about what that says about either of them, personally Taylor is very much 4th pick at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Yanga and Williamson were forming a decent partnership before Coloccini was put back in the team, I would stick with those two as our CB pairing and put Santon on the right (don't rate him but hes the only option IMO) and finally give Haidara his chance on the left. Exactly. Mbiwa in the centre is especially crucial, as I don't think a Williamson - Saylor combination would work at all due to lack of pace, skill on the ball and intelligence. Aye, the thought of Williamson and Taylor together terrifies me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Yanga and Williamson were forming a decent partnership before Coloccini was put back in the team, I would stick with those two as our CB pairing and put Santon on the right (don't rate him but hes the only option IMO) and finally give Haidara his chance on the left. Exactly. Mbiwa in the centre is especially crucial, as I don't think a Williamson - Saylor combination would work at all due to lack of pace, skill on the ball and intelligence. Aye, the thought of Williamson and Taylor together terrifies me. I thought M'Biwa was a bit unfortunate to lose his place once Coloccini was fit again a few weeks ago. He and Williamson were forging a pretty good understanding and the partnership was developing nicely. Fingers crossed they can pick up where they left off. Taylor is definitely 4th choice atm and should only be in to give Williamson a break if he needs one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Colo shouldn't have been playing anyway TBH, although he's still a good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 He is a good player but I have no issue at all with Mapou coming in, biggest worry is no Debuch for three games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 where does the 4 to 6 weeks come from ?? http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20140101/coloccini-facing-six-weeks-out_2281670_3600078?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Fabricio Coloccini could be sidelined for up to six weeks after suffering medial ligament damage at West Bromwich Albion on Wednesday. United's skipper pulled up in pain following a second-half challenge and was eventually replaced in the 65th minute, as the Magpies went on to suffer a 1-0 Barclays Premier League defeat. Coloccini left the Hawthorns on crutches and will be further assessed by Newcastle's medical staff over the coming days. However, based on the early signs, manager Alan Pardew expects to be without the influential centre-back until at least the start of February. "I think he's got a ligament problem, so it could be four-to-six weeks," revealed Pardew to nufcTV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I do think Taylor is better than Williamson but there is no way he should be dropped right now. Taylor will have to wait for his chance. He won't, though, He'll be in the team in the next 2 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 And so it starts...massive loss this....we are much better when he plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Haidara seems to be a fav. of Pardew. Can see santon moving to RB, MYM & Willo at the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The thought of Williamson and Taylor being our CB pairing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The thought of Williamson and Taylor being our CB pairing Anything that causes Taylor to get nearer to 1st team football ain't good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Get well soon Colo - we were all over the shop when he went off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Get well soon Colo - we were all over the shop when he went off Lets not overreact we were already down to 10 men and it was 65 minutes in. Williamson and MYM did fine before Colo came back into the side. Edit: Just double checked, Colo was on the pitch for a massive 2 minutes after Debuchy was sent off, couldn't possibly have been the fact we went down to 10 men that affected our performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 @nufcfans: “@JuanG_Arango: Scratch San Lorenzo from list of teams Coloccini will head to. Father was just sacked as their director of football.” #NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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