toontownman Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Had a good first half especially at the start, put some decent balls in and ran the flanks. Pulled more into the centre in the second which didnt help anyone out but we also needed someone to come past the half way line through the middle. He is still looking very short in confidence when it comes to taking players on and what to do with the ball when he gets to the box. He has the skills to beat players but is struggling with a huge mental block there. Can be a huge attacking threat if he gets over it. He must be taking something from Pardews backing putting him in the starting line up, however with Marveaux approaching fitness and Barfa maybe returning I would expect him to be dropped to the bench. If he doesnt grasp this opportunity with both hands it is going to be hard for him to do anything at this club imo. I still think he is getting better with each game, but as soon as he drops to the bench he is going to start losing any confidence he is building up. He needs to make an impact and quickly. Really its down to him, not much coaching his going to get him over his slump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 He can have no excuses for not tracking his man back when he loses possession. Just fucking weak man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 He can have no excuses for not tracking his man back when he loses possession. Just f***ing weak man. Annoying I didnt think he was as bad as a couple of games ago but its a backwards step from Fulham on the defensive side. He worked pretty hard tracking back last game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 He can have no excuses for not tracking his man back when he loses possession. Just fucking weak man. A coaching issue IMO. The club make a big deal out of signing players who are 'right' for us in terms of attitude etc, well let's see it then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Still early days but i wouldn't start the lad, think he'd be better used as an impact sub. For a supposedly quick player he doesn't attack his player very much, loads of times today he had the opportunity to relieve some of our pressure by just getting his head down and bombing down the line but after running about 15 yards stopped and played a pass backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Obertan was one of our better players today I thought. Used the ball well under pressure, and made some good passes on the rare occasion we had the ball on the deck. I won't judge any technique player while we are playing this abysmal long ball game. I thought he did really well to adapt his game as best he could in all honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Ran when he had the ball, but fuck all else imo. He just strikes me as a much shitter Robert so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Ran when he had the ball, but fuck all else imo. He just strikes me as a much shitter Robert so far. Not a winger, looks much more dangerous when played behind the striker, his pace frightens CB's.. most would be overjoyed to see him out wide where he can't run at them. Ro many times tonight he lost the ball and made no effort to win it back.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I would love to see him try and beat a man on the outside and put a cross or two in. He's quick enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Not really sure what kind of player he is at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Someone should tell him to have a look at Sammy. Move into space - receive the ball - attack the defender(s). I love that about Sammy. He's always willing to give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Someone should tell him to have a look at Sammy. Move into space - receive the ball - attack the defender(s). I love that about Sammy. He's always willing to give it a go. Sammy is going to be a special player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 At this point in time he doesn't even look like an upgrade on Routledge, never mind Joey Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 At this point in time he doesn't even look like an upgrade on Routledge, never mind Joey Barton. I agree but as I implied in the other thread (despite my annoyance at us buying him in the first place) this wouldn't have been as much of a problem if he'd been brought in as part of the squad. Instead he's being asked to put together a run of games, as first choice, for the first time in his entire career as far as I know. In other words it would have been fine if he was Routledge's replacement and Barton stayed, or Barton was adequately replaced. As it stands I have my fingers crossed about the likes of Marveaux, Ben Arfa and Gosling, because I sure as fuck don't want Obertan starting every game for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Afraid to stick a foot in, afriad to take on his man, afraid to stick a ball into the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 At this point in time he doesn't even look like an upgrade on Routledge, never mind Joey Barton. He looked far better IMO. Not his fault that Pardew doesn't know how to assemble a team or even pick a style of play then execute it with the players available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 At this point in time he doesn't even look like an upgrade on Routledge, never mind Joey Barton. It's too early to say but so far I don't see a better player, in fact I see a lot of the same things in the two players. They are both fast and both fail to get past defenders when they should piss it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It is his fault that he won't attack the left back though or attempt to get to the by-line though, even when they brought some kid on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 At this point in time he doesn't even look like an upgrade on Routledge, never mind Joey Barton. It's too early to say but so far I don't see a better player, in fact I see a lot of the same things in the two players. They are both fast and both fail to get past defenders when they should p*ss it. obertan has won more ball than routledge did....may be cause we let them have more in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 He was clearly far from the finished article when we bought him, so I suppose we've got to give him more pitch time and more patience than he got at ManYoo and see if there is a player in there to go with the attributes. Its not the easiest thing to do. With Newcastle too, they'll not be many games where we're in a comfortable enough position just to give someone a game. Obviously the best way to bring get young players up to Premiership speed is to loan them to someone else and get them to do the donkey work. See Cleverly, Sturridge, and Wellbeck to see how this works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Should be an impact player, not a starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Stick the boot in a bit more you pussy. Thats all I can say about him so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 He just looks like he needs to try harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Should be dropped for Marveaux next week. Seems tailor made to be an impact sub and not much else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Should be dropped for Marveaux next week. Seems tailor made to be an impact sub and not much else. That term cannot be used unless referring to Steven or Ryan and replacing the i with a y. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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