Shak Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Shocked he stayed on for the 90 minutes today, was more or less rubbish tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I didn't think he was this 'awful' or whatever. He did his job to a decent enough standard and pushed back Assou Ekotto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 He'll be a frightening player coming off the bench for the last 15 mins against tired legs. Basically that's the role for him, first team is a bit beyond his talent right now.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I don't mind him, panics when it counts which should improve but is an option to get the ball down the wing. If Santon does fill in at right back for a while I reckon we will see a much improved Obertan (like Obertan, I don't mind Simpson just think Ober will work better off a real attacking full back). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Don't understand this bloke, he is absolutely lightening fast he even kept up with Bale when he was on the break away. Thinking back to someone like Gillespie - he made a career out of just knocking the ball past the defender then pegging it after it. Obertan has the same pace and more ability, yet every time hes one on one with the full back he just slows the ball right down and shuffles up to the defender not seeming sure what to do. Just doesn't seem to have the confidence or the competitive edge to be a top player at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Don't understand this bloke, he is absolutely lightening fast he even kept up with Bale when he was on the break away. Thinking back to someone like Gillespie - he made a career out of just knocking the ball past the defender then pegging it after it. Obertan has the same pace and more ability, yet every time hes one on one with the full back he just slows the ball right down and shuffles up to the defender not seeming sure what to do. Just doesn't seem to have the confidence or the competitive edge to be a top player at the moment. Ludicrous comment. Gillespie had a terrific ability to cross the ball in at full pace. Obertan struggles to match that quality from a static position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Don't understand this bloke, he is absolutely lightening fast he even kept up with Bale when he was on the break away. Thinking back to someone like Gillespie - he made a career out of just knocking the ball past the defender then pegging it after it. Obertan has the same pace and more ability Typical Mackem comment that, "came from Man utd so he must be good" is all I see there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Which substitution were we supposed to use exactly? Ba + Best off for Shola + HBA (no matter what your thoughts at the time, Pardew has been proven to make the right decision with the result). Simpson off for Santon - Spurs were starting to look dangerous on the break while we were pushing for the equaliser. Simpson has a history of getting caught out of position (especially in the last 20minutes of games - think Spurs, last year). Santon apparently offers quite a lot going forward and he did just that when he came on. We can only make 3 subs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 His problem for me is lack of support down the right, he gets the ball and stretches the game but Simpson never seems to be down the right for him like Enrique was for Jonas so his options are sometimes lacking, it wouldn't do him any harm to hold on to the ball in those circumstances and wait for support rather than trying to run it on his own. He's not too bad to be fair to him, I do get the feeling he's one of these players that the fans have to be won over by him rather than giving the guy a chance like they do with other players that don't hit the ground running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Gets brushed off the ball far too easy.I dont know If Its his strength or lack of desire,think it could be a bit of both.Im not a big fan but he would be a good player to bring off the bench If he would use his speed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Don't understand this bloke, he is absolutely lightening fast he even kept up with Bale when he was on the break away. Thinking back to someone like Gillespie - he made a career out of just knocking the ball past the defender then pegging it after it. Obertan has the same pace and more ability, yet every time hes one on one with the full back he just slows the ball right down and shuffles up to the defender not seeming sure what to do. Just doesn't seem to have the confidence or the competitive edge to be a top player at the moment. Ludicrous comment. Gillespie had a terrific ability to cross the ball in at full pace. Obertan struggles to match that quality from a static position. I remember Gillespie as a dreadful crosser with the exception of one game v Barcelona. Obertan is also poor but seems to have better close control and more skill. Don't understand this bloke, he is absolutely lightening fast he even kept up with Bale when he was on the break away. Thinking back to someone like Gillespie - he made a career out of just knocking the ball past the defender then pegging it after it. Obertan has the same pace and more ability Typical Mackem comment that, "came from Man utd so he must be good" is all I see there. Not following you here mate, I'm comparing one player who signed from Man U with another player who signed from Man U. And I do think that Obertan has loads of ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Gillespie a dreadful crosser? Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Don't understand this bloke, he is absolutely lightening fast he even kept up with Bale when he was on the break away. Thinking back to someone like Gillespie - he made a career out of just knocking the ball past the defender then pegging it after it. Obertan has the same pace and more ability Typical Mackem comment that, "came from Man utd so he must be good" is all I see there. Not following you here mate, I'm comparing one player who signed from Man U with another player who signed from Man U. And I do think that Obertan has loads of ability. I'm saying there is absolutely nothing that Obertan has done in his career so far to suggest he would even come close to having the same level of ability as Keith Gillespie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Gillespie is a dreadful crosser? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Disgrace today. Still better than I expected. :yawn: (and no he didn't set the world alight today) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 cnt really explain why but i thought he was important today. Used his pace well. I liked the way he roamed about first half trying to link up play. Plus he had assou-ekotto on the back foot quite alot which helped peg him back and stop him attacking us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 needs to improve his passing going by today's performance. Talented player though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Don't understand this bloke, he is absolutely lightening fast he even kept up with Bale when he was on the break away. Thinking back to someone like Gillespie - he made a career out of just knocking the ball past the defender then pegging it after it. Obertan has the same pace and more ability, yet every time hes one on one with the full back he just slows the ball right down and shuffles up to the defender not seeming sure what to do. Just doesn't seem to have the confidence or the competitive edge to be a top player at the moment. Youtube Newcastle 3 Barcelona 2 then think about what you just said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Such a frustrating player. Maybe the most frustrating player I've seen with this shirt for many years. Seems to make the team better with his running and so on, but is absolutely shit as a footballer durng 95% of the game. After 5 games he's more frustrating than Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Clearly has the talent, just not the intelligence or bravery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Was a lot better when Santon came on IMO. He'll be a lot better if Santon plays regularly at RB, he'll have some help down that right hand side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Didn't think he was bad yesterday, he misplaced a couple of passes but other than that he moved and passed well. Sometimes doesn't realise that he could just knock the ball and destroy his opponent down the line. Hopefully that's something the coaching staff are working on with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Didn't think he was bad yesterday, he misplaced a couple of passes but other than that he moved and passed well. Sometimes doesn't realise that he could just knock the ball and destroy his opponent down the line. Hopefully that's something the coaching staff are working on with him. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 He's playing OK, but I think that either Masrveaux or BenArfa would do much more than him offensively, he does cover a lot of ground defending but I suppose either of thos two could be asked to do the same... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Hate to say I told you so, but he stood no chance whatsoever against Assou-Ekotto. Needs to be dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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