Guest VaVaVoom Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I'd love for him to be sold tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniatmoko Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 the talent is never questionable he has it pace & dribbling... but the mentality wasn't there.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Think he will still come good eventually, Coloccini & Enrique were awful in their first season at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 the talent is never questionable he has it pace & dribbling... but the mentality wasn't there.... He has pace, which he is unable to use as he cant dribble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 He can dribble.... Haven't seen him do it while at NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 He was different levels of shit today. And when you consider his lack of effort and motivation, he is absolutely indefensible. Thing is, whether you think it's right or wrong - the crowd is on his back now so there is just no point in him being anywhere near the side. It was a completely different match altogether after he went off; the whole crowd breathed a sigh of relief. On top of that, it's that age old thing about Gutierrez being the 'main' winger, but when he's being double-marked all the time he's not as effective. When Obertan was replaced by Ben Arfa in the RM slot, Gutierrez and Santon had absolutely acres more space and Gutierrez in particular looked much better. Ben Arfa was the one being double marked but the majority of times he managed to skin both players and do something with the ball. Good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 He can dribble.... Haven't seen him do it while at NUFC. Neither have i, just making his usual Lucky Luke dance with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Despite a lifetime of waiting patiently for success, it is surprising how quickly we turn on our own players. History has shown us time and again that some young players can take a whole season of patience before they come good at a new club. It could be Obertan is another one of these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Despite a lifetime of waiting patiently for success, it is surprising how quickly we turn on our own players. History has shown us time and again that some young players can take a whole season of patience before they come good at a new club. It could be Obertan is another one of these. Its partly Pardew's fault for insisting on starting him every game over Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Despite a lifetime of waiting patiently for success, it is surprising how quickly we turn on our own players. History has shown us time and again that some young players can take a whole season of patience before they come good at a new club. It could be Obertan is another one of these. Its partly Pardew's fault for insisting on starting him every game over Ben Arfa. He wouldn't be getting anywhere near as much stick as he is if he was second choice, as he rightly should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 How on earth did he make as a pro? I'm baffled. Is it his pace? He can't cross. Can't beat a man, even though he's got the pace. Can't shoot. I have no idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Loan him to a lower league club for a season, maybe he'll come back with some cutting edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Loan him to a lower league club for a season, maybe he'll come back with some cutting edge. I do think we need him in the squad personally, just shouldn't be starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 as a sub to bring some pace can see him, but in that role would he develop? If they think he'll come good would rather he spent the time somewhere else doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Honestly... I think Pancrate was a better player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Nah, reckon Obertan would look good in the Championship. Think back and remember just how shit that division was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 He just need to be on the bench and be told what are his mistakes...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 And yes, ladies and gentlemen, he'll be starting this weekend. You all know it's going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 If Pardew starts Obertan in this, he could as well execute Obertan himself. The crowd will be on his back now more than ever if he fails to deliver yet again, which he almost certainly will. My thoughts. (not that i want to see him either) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Thought I'd repost this: I won't write him off completely just yet but it does look as if he's still not ready for PL football. I appreciate the fact from the management's point of view that he won't learn about the trade if he doesn't start. But the fact is that he's simply not doing it on the pitch yet and as a consequence should not be an automatic starter. The lad clearly needs a lot of coaching and I mean a lot! He simply needs to learn how to be an effective winger and how to use his attributes especially his pace effectively. One on one coaching and finding ways to improve his game/approach (be it through DVDs of other players or whatever) could be the best route to go imo. He needs to know what he's doing wrong and how to correct himself. However, so far it looks as if he's not learning anything. Confidence is also an issue for the lad and that is something you can't really teach. IMO, the best approach, for now, is to use him as an impact player coming from the bench. This will ultimately allow him to run at tiring players which hopefully will result in something positive (an assist/goal). This would do his confidence a lot of good. Great cameo appearances will probably help him feel more confident about life in the PL (and himself) and it should be at this stage when he could think about being an important first team player. Being out of the firing line will also help him to "recover" from his shot confidence too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/rRlZA.jpg New career? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 God I hope so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I bet he's shite at that too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Look at the claret on the blokes trousers. Seem's Ober slipped and miscued.................aimed for the left arm, got the right leg. Nobody can say he's not consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 A Toon fan getting his arm signed, and if this happened before this season started he has probably comitted suicide by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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