Mike Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Obertan just looks like he has no confidence man, my God. I could definitely see him being a completely different player under someone who was more upbeat and enthusiastic, and instilled more confidence in people. He's a ridiculous athlete. Pardew is using him correctly, (off the bench late) he's just.... ineffective. If he did have some confidence, he'd be a valuable asset. But how do you get confidence on this team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He needs a brain before he needs confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Poor Obertan ... dude is cursed. Can't help but feel sad for him I maintain that the ball from Sissoko was s*** though. The guy's passing is criminally bad at times. Had to play the ball in front of Obertan who was at full pelt, and made up a ridiculous amount of ground to get in the position he did. Obertan just looks like he has no confidence man, my God. I could definitely see him being a completely different player under someone who was more upbeat and enthusiastic, and instilled more confidence in people. Not just that but it was the wrong option.... should have passed to Remy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 The best players in the world have the skills and mental strength to perform at the very top level, in the biggest games. This lad will never make it without a combination of both. He made it through the clairefontaine academy, so he must have some talent/ability in there somewhere, but without the mental strength to perform when under such intense scrutiny, he will never make it at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He's extremely quick and has enough talent to play in the premier league. But he has no heart. None at all. He plays like a timid 6 year old, shit scared of any sort of contact. I'll make a bet with anyone on here, of piss drinking proportion that Obertan never amounts to fuck all in any top league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 What concerns me is that many were saying similar about Routledge not being assertive enough and showing the confidence he needed to, obviously not to anywhere near the same extent, but Routledge was so passive and timid for us too, once we came up. He then went to Swansea and shone brightly for them. He was quite frankly unrecognizable to the player that featured for us in the prem. Ironically, Obertan was linked with Swansea over the summer. Would be fascinating to see how he turns out if he goes somewhere like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 He needs a brain before he needs confidence. This. I can see him running out his contract with the rare loan here and there before going back to France and slowly disappearing into mediocrity like David Bellion did. Routledge had at least done well with Crystal Palace in the PL to get noticed before the pressure overtook him. He also did well in the Championship for QPR and us before moving on to a promoted side that suits his playing style. Obertan didn't even prove himself at Bordeaux. Their manager and fans were surprised Man Utd came in for him. 2 goals and 4 assists in 53 PL appearances for us, the number of good decent games for not even touching 10%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 don't call me ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 What concerns me is that many were saying similar about Routledge not being assertive enough and showing the confidence he needed to, obviously not to anywhere near the same extent, but Routledge was so passive and timid for us too, once we came up. He then went to Swansea and shone brightly for them. He was quite frankly unrecognizable to the player that featured for us in the prem. Ironically, Obertan was linked with Swansea over the summer. Would be fascinating to see how he turns out if he goes somewhere like that. Routledge was always a decent football player, Obertan is just a good athlete with hopeless ball skills. He can be useful to push back the opposition when protecting a lead, but is hopeless in any other situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 He's absolutely bloody terrible. If this is us putting him in the shop window it's backfired in a big way. Like putting a chocolate fountain in M&S window only to realise too late that it's actually a fountain of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 He's absolutely bloody terrible. If this is us putting him in the shop window it's backfired in a big way. Like putting a chocolate fountain in M&S window only to realise too late that it's actually a fountain of s***. Apart from that would be entertaining to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Obertan turns heat on Nani RISING French star Gabriel Obertan is putting Nani's United future under threat. Don't call me the new Cristiano Ronaldo: Manchester United's Gabriel Obertan rejects comparison despite skilful show Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1231242/Dont-new-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Manchester-Uniteds-Gabriel-Obertan-rejects-comparison-despite-skilful-show.html#ixzz2mcyuyKF3 Gabriel Obertan steps into Cristiano Ronaldo's shoes as Manchester United unleash him on Barnsley Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1223264/Gabriel-Obertan-steps-Cristiano-Ronaldos-boots-Manchester-United-unleash-Barnsley.html#ixzz2mczZsnU6 Gabriel Obertan shows Nani how to replace Cristiano Ronaldo Read more:http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/markogden/100002908/gabriel-obertan-shows-nani-how-to-replace-cristiano-ronaldo/ Now, I'm going to wait a few years before jumping into the Janujaz-hype. :lol: These headlines are like chaos. It's like Sam fucked up in an episode of Quantum Leap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 He's absolutely bloody terrible. If this is us putting him in the shop window it's backfired in a big way. Like putting a chocolate fountain in M&S window only to realise too late that it's actually a fountain of s***. Apart from that would be entertaining to watch. Whatever floats your boat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Routledge was always a decent football player, Obertan is just a good athlete with hopeless ball skills. He can be useful to push back the opposition when protecting a lead, but is hopeless in any other situation. I still think it's mainly his mental attitude that's the problem, he seems very self-conscious and over-thinks things when he has time. He just needs to find a level or league where he can play every week and get some enjoyment and confidence back. He's clearly never going to make it in a top league, but that's alright as long as he realises. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Should not be even on the bench. Much prefer Sammy (or anyone else) over this oaf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Don't know how he's got in above Sammy in the pecking order, especially after Pardew went on about promoting English youth and saying Dummett/Sameobi were on the first team fringes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Needs to retire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Needs to retire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Needs to retire. It would be an epic comeback if he was to become even average. Ain't going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Hope we move him on as soon as possible. Clearly is not going to make it at PL level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 What's the story then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 What's the story then? He's shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 What's the story then? He's s****. Apparently stormed out pre-match. Or just fell over and died, again I'm not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Not sure who's more overrated on here out of Routledge or Best like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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