Rob Elliot (now at Gateshead)

[madras]

Didn't see the first half live and just watching it on MotD now and he wants pelters for that corner that Van Dijk beats him to at 1-0 to us.

[bulivye]

Scott Sterling would've saved both! 

[Jaqen]

He got down really slow for the 1st but I think it looks worse than it is. When a shot is fired back across the opposite direction you're moving and goes through a defenders legs it's always really awkward. Thought Forster was worse for both our goals.

[Wallsendmag]

I know i'm a couple pages late. But I wish Wallsendmag would f*** off to another forum.

 

As long as my presence annoys bellends such as yourself I'll probably just stick around.

[Guest]

It was pretty poor that Atsu or Hayden didn't help Manquillo out more watching the goal again, given he'd jockeyed Gabbiadini from a shouting chance 7 yards out, to making him take a shot on 18 yards out. A Premier League level keeper should save that though.

[Wallsendmag]

I'd still lay the blame at Manquillos door for the goal but I agree he isn't afforded anywhere near the protection Yedlin gets on the other side.

[Away Day Gadgie]

It was pretty poor that Atsu or Hayden didn't help Manquillo out more watching the goal again, given he'd jockeyed Gabbiadini from a shouting chance 7 yards out, to making him take a shot on 18 yards out. A Premier League level keeper should save that though.

 

I've only seen the goal once but i thought exactly that.  It seemed to me like Manquillo had done a decent job in forcing him away from goal, usually in that situation a team mate would come and help the defender out but it didn't happen on that occasion.

 

I was expecting the ball to go wide and out for a goal kick, i was very surprised to see it go in the net.  Elliott should've done better IMO.

[Guest]

I'm not sure what he could have done differently. Try to win the ball and he runs a big risk of giving away a penalty and you can guarantee if he'd done that, he'd have received stick because the player was going away from goal. Someone should have been helping there. Then of course there's the weak shot which should never beat an adequate keeper.

[Lush Vlad]

Didn’t remember it being quite that far out that is even worse than I remember.

 

[Guest]

Also throw in the pigs ear he made of a cross where van Dijk could have scored and a poor kick first half which could have been punished, and overall it was poor from him considering he wasn't that busy. Lee Ryder gave him a 7 though of course.

[Geordie Ahmed]

I guess that's cos he gives canny interviews, there is no way that was a 7 performance

[Benwell Lad]

That goal was quite exceptional in the way Gabbiadini worked the opening from a nothing position.

Elliot looks slow going down but most times the forward doesn't get the shot in and if he does 9 times out of 10 it goes far post, which was the way his body was set.

It really was a very clever goal.

[The College Dropout]

Aye Atsu should've helped out or another player. In the box opp players should be engaged by 2 players so blocks can be made.

[Infinitely Content]

Watching it live I just thought - that's a great goal fashioned out of nothing. Didn't really strike me as an Elliot mistake and still doesn't tbh. Lovely goal.

[Disco]

I actively dislike him but it's one of them where a better, more agile, keeper saves it rather than it being attributed as a direct error. I'm far more worried about his command of his area from inswinging FKs and corners which he has been incredibly lucky not to have conceded from this season. His inability to standing jump and/or punch further than a pat is a concern.

[BottledDog]

Watching it live I just thought - that's a great goal fashioned out of nothing. Didn't really strike me as an Elliot mistake and still doesn't tbh. Lovely goal.

 

And based on this game alone, despite the pelters being thrown at Elliot, he was still a fair bit better than the other (far more lauded) keeper on the pitch.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

Manquillos fault in the main, but a better keeper saves it.

 

Worth pointing out that we don’t have a better keeper on our books though.

 

His kicking seemed to have improved in recent weeks but it went back to be diabolically bad yesterday.

 

An area of the team we desperately need to stengthen in January.

[Hughesy]

First goal is still a strange one, even after multiple views.  Manquillo starts off doing a decent job, but doesn't get quite tight enough as Gabbiadini moves away from goal.  Atsu runs back to nominally help out but seems to get in Manquillo's way and allow Gabbiadini that extra yard of room he needs and then Elliot gets wrong footed and reacts too slowly.  Just a bit of a sloppy goal.

 

Frustrating how much better we'd be with a quality goalkeeper, number 10 and number 9.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

Manquillos fault in the main, but a better keeper saves it.

 

Worth pointing out that we don’t have a better keeper on our books though.

 

His kicking seemed to have improved in recent weeks but it went back to be diabolically bad yesterday.

 

An area of the team we desperately need to stengthen in January.

 

I think woodman is a better keeper like, people can argue whether he's too young but he is a better keeper.

 

Although I think you’re right, it’s impossible to say because he’s completely untested at this level.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Watching it live I just thought - that's a great goal fashioned out of nothing. Didn't really strike me as an Elliot mistake and still doesn't tbh. Lovely goal.

 

And based on this game alone, despite the pelters being thrown at Elliot, he was still a fair bit better than the other (far more lauded) keeper on the pitch.

Being better than a keeper that had a mare (and has errors in his game) is not really the benchmark we should be using

 

I would want my keeper to save that at this level BUT we know speed is not one of his strengths, like Harper he takes too long to get down and it wasn't even struck with that much power either

[Benwell Lad]

If yesterday was in any way indicative of Forster and not just a blip then it's astonishing how both he and Krul have regressed over the last few years.

[Guest firetotheworks]

As obviously limited as I think Manquillo is, I think it's canny mad how people are criticising him for doing exactly what imo he should have done. The only thing he didn't do was block the shot, which he still attempted to do.

[The College Dropout]

Aye he’s so shaky from set plays. Apart for a period of 28 months with Krul - all of our keepers in recent memory have had this shortcoming. 

 

Likewise all of our keepers in recent memories have poor distribution. 

 

The lads that have it all don’t play for Newcastle.

 

Good reflexes / shot stopper

Doesn’t drop clangers often

Commands area

Distribution

 

I think at our budget level unless a genius stroke of a signing the best we can hope for is 2 out of the 4 with being ok at the other 2. 

 

None of our goalkeepers are good at more than 1 of those things.

 

[Hughesy]

As obviously limited as I think Manquillo is, I think it's canny mad how people are criticising him for doing exactly what imo he should have done. The only thing he didn't do was block the shot, which he still attempted to do.

 

Do you not think he should have got tighter to Gabbiadini?  Think he allowed him too much space personally.

[The College Dropout]

As obviously limited as I think Manquillo is, I think it's canny mad how people are criticising him for doing exactly what imo he should have done. The only thing he didn't do was block the shot, which he still attempted to do.

Aye he’s in the box the best he can hope for is a block and taking him away from danger area. A better player and he blocks it. A better goalie saves it. 

 

But overall he needed more support.  Once it’s gome through his legs it’s very difficult.