TRon Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think he has good potential, but he probably won't reach it here while Pardew and his team are here. Has he even developed one bit since he arrived? I still think we should hold on to him for next season though. We could potentially be losing Remy, Cisse and Colo at least in the summer, the last thing we need is to sell Santon as well because he won't be replaced. Haidara needs more game time to create some real competition for LB. He didn't slide to block Armstrong's shot, his effort was half-hearted. I've seen him do it before, and I'm not sure you can coach that into a player. Who the fuck is Armstrong? Johnson I meant. Fuck knows why I thought it was Armstrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Been willing to give him time to develop but right now will be happy to see Haidara given a run. He needs to sort his head out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Has he ever been booked? Can't remember him ever picking up a card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I think he has good potential, but he probably won't reach it here while Pardew and his team are here. Has he even developed one bit since he arrived? I still think we should hold on to him for next season though. We could potentially be losing Remy, Cisse and Colo at least in the summer, the last thing we need is to sell Santon as well because he won't be replaced. Haidara needs more game time to create some real competition for LB. He didn't slide to block Armstrong's shot, his effort was half-hearted. I've seen him do it before, and I'm not sure you can coach that into a player. He's definitely a passive footballer. Not helpful for a LB at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ah man, imagine having a good manager that helps develop players. Santon could be so good with some decent coaching. Tbf a determined like Cabaye did improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Has he ever been booked? Can't remember him ever picking up a card. He got booked against Sunerland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Has he ever been booked? Can't remember him ever picking up a card. Probably. A better and more difficult question is, has he ever made a strong tackle? Has he ever showed real determination? Has he ever RAN back when caught out of position instead of jogging back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Has he ever been booked? Can't remember him ever picking up a card. He got booked against Sunerland Of course he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ah man, imagine having a good manager that helps develop players. Santon could be so good with some decent coaching. Tbf a determined like Cabaye did improve. Hmmm ... not sure I believe that at all. I honestly believe Cabaye was always that good, just needed to get used to the pace of the league. I would venture to say that he would have shown even more, in a team that was setup better to attack, than Pardew will ever manage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ah man, imagine having a good manager that helps develop players. Santon could be so good with some decent coaching. Tbf a determined like Cabaye did improve. Aye, but probably entirely of his own accord. None of our younger players seem to develop whatsoever under Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Has he ever been booked? Can't remember him ever picking up a card. He got booked against Sunerland Of course he did. Anderson leaving for Florence has taken a toll on your brain... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I blame Pardew for a lto of things and he's no Wenger when it comes out improving players. But it's not all his fault, if you want to improve you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Has he ever been booked? Can't remember him ever picking up a card. He got booked against Sunerland Of course he did. Anderson leaving for Florence has taken a toll on your brain... Clearly. I turned it off at 2-0, but I can hardly remember anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Dude is soft. Real mamma's boy this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Has he ever been booked? Can't remember him ever picking up a card. Probably. A better and more difficult question is, has he ever made a strong tackle? Has he ever showed real determination? Has he ever RAN back when caught out of position instead of jogging back? Of course he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I really like him and I know he isn't shit. But something is very wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I really like him and I know he isn't s***. But something is very wrong. He's been shit this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Like I said the other day, the thing I can't forgive with this lad for is his jogging back when he's out of position, and for not putting more than a tame foot out to try and block Adam Johnson. I've this feeling he's been awful for ages with this goal line scramble type stuff and generally always loses out. Could just be supremely clouded judgement based on that sorry excuse for defending on Adam Johnson's goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 What would you guys think about trying moving him up to the wing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 What would you guys think about trying moving up to the wing? He would still cut inside and fail to deliver quality from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Only thing he does well is carrying the ball at times. Has some elegance to his play/touch. He's shit at the rest though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I don't rate him defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Needs to be benched for a while. Needs a wakeup call. He's a talented player, he's just not developing anymore, like he's reached a ceiling and confidence is shut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I don't rate him offensively either. Doesn't contribute to any assists or goals. I really don't see the point of him. I used to forgive him b/c I thought he was OK defensively with his height and ability in the air and carrying ball forward - but he's weak as piss when he's having one of those low confidence days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I don't rate him offensively either. Doesn't contribute to any assists or goals. I really don't see the point of him. I used to forgive him b/c I thought he was OK defensively with his height and ability in the air and carrying ball forward - but he's weak as p*ss when he's having one of those low confidence days. Offense isn't all about goal and assists, he does contribute in other offensive parts, but I do agree with you. Losing hope with him, and do think Haidara deserves his shot now (unless he's injured again). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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