Optimistic Nut Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ridsdale was out of his depth at Leeds but spent the money (which crippled them) which got them to the top 5 & a Champions League Semi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ridsdale was out of his depth at Leeds but spent the money (which crippled them) which got them to the top 5 & a Champions League Semi. But we never spent that sort of money until Souness came in. That was Shepherd's biggest failing, trusting a bellend with money that wasn't really there. As for Sir Bobby, Viana, Bramble, Woodgate, Bellamy and Robert was hardly spending above our limits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 By the way: "he's a miracle man, the chairman." - Sir Bobby Robson, 2003. Everyone sucks up to their boss man He wasn't his boss in 2006, when he again praised Shepherd's backing of him in his book. It's clear from Sir Bob's book that his relationship with Shepherd was very fraught. From his account of his appointment, it sounded like Shepherd didn't want him and that the decision was being forced on him by others. Towards the end, Robson felt he was being undermined in various situations. Yes, there were times when Shepherd would act boldly and decisively, (eg the Woodgate signing), and Sir Bob appreciated that. But as a Chairman, Shepherd got far too involved in the playing side, and we ended up with awful decisions like the spunking of huge amounts of money on Owen and Luque, who didn't even want to come here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ridsdale was out of his depth at Leeds but spent the money (which crippled them) which got them to the top 5 & a Champions League Semi. But we never spent that sort of money until Souness came in. That was Shepherd's biggest failing, trusting a bellend with money that wasn't really there. As for Sir Bobby, Viana, Bramble, Woodgate, Bellamy and Robert was hardly spending above our limits. We were about to sign Zenden before Robert. Doubt any of those top 5 finishes would have happened had he chose us over Chelsea in 2001. Can't put those finishes down to Shepherd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 We also wanted Jeffers over Bellamy. Just imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 As frustrating as the Shepherd era was, it was still miles better than what we have to endure with the current wanker. I wouldn't be jumping with joy if he bought us back (which he won't; he hasn't got the money for one), but at this point I would be satisfied with anyone offering a glimmer of hope and ambition, as sad as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'd written plenty out about this but I'm not even going to post it, it's that much of a ridiculous argument. Suffice to say ambitious incompetence is infinitely preferable to sheer malice, and I say that as somebody who hated Freddy Shepherd. Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ridsdale was out of his depth at Leeds but spent the money (which crippled them) which got them to the top 5 & a Champions League Semi. But we never spent that sort of money until Souness came in. That was Shepherd's biggest failing, trusting a bellend with money that wasn't really there. As for Sir Bobby, Viana, Bramble, Woodgate, Bellamy and Robert was hardly spending above our limits. We were about to sign Zenden before Robert. Doubt any of those top 5 finishes would have happened had he chose us over Chelsea in 2001. Can't put those finishes down to Shepherd. So who does it go to? Lady luck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Robson, the team & Robert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Hi statement on .cock is just depressing, no ambition in there what so ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 What statement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 What statement? Sorry, Lee Charnley's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 So out of his depth that we finished 2nd, 4th, 3rd and 5th with him in the seat. Then again, the balance sheet was s*** viewing. Robson got him most of those. He is the sole reason for our success under him. Dalgleish's was lucky with inheriting a great team before royally f***ing it up. Bobby was backed very well with transfer funds with the exception of one summer. We showed a lot of ambition back then. Bobby had a fair few flunks in the transfer market and Shephard kept backing him. Carl Cort ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Robson, the team & Robert. That's it. Shepherd gets no credit for all that from me. Robson was not only an obvious choice, it was the only choice. It wasn't even a choice. Robson brought experience, respect from the world of football, ideas, tactical knowledge, player knowledge etc etc etc to the role and Shepeherd sat there watching, taking his millions and lapping it up. He hardly had to work. As I said, Robson carried us. Shepherd spent some money we made based on our GREAT manager's recommendations. That's all he did. That's the very least a chairman should be doing. Is he as bad as Ashley? No. Was he any good? No! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'd written plenty out about this but I'm not even going to post it, it's that much of a ridiculous argument. Suffice to say ambitious incompetence is infinitely preferable to sheer malice, and I say that as somebody who hated Freddy Shepherd. Absolutely. I've said this many times and it's true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 We spent £16m on two players after finishing 11th with no obvious cash injection. Shephard was an ambitious Chairmen. When we got into the CL/battling it out in Europe. That's where he wanted the club to be and he tried to do what was necessary to get us there in the first place. Souness was the worst move ever. But he genuinely tried to make it work by getting Souness big name signings to try and get us back in that top echelon. He tried. He wanted us to succeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 He'd have sacked Allardyce quickly too. He appointed him man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 We spent £16m on two players after finishing 11th with no obvious cash injection. Shephard was an ambitious Chairmen. When we got into the CL/battling it out in Europe. That's where he wanted the club to be and he tried to do what was necessary to get us there in the first place. Souness was the worst move ever. But he genuinely tried to make it work by getting Souness big name signings to try and get us back in that top echelon. He tried. He wanted us to succeed. Yep and why people saying they wouldn't want him back over Ashley is proper mental. A bloke who's misguided but wants us to be successful or a wanker who sees us as one big billboard for his own pocket. I know who i'd choose every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 He'd have sacked Allardyce quickly too. He appointed him man. He appointed pretty much all the managers he sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Robson, the team & Robert. That's it. Shepherd gets no credit for all that from me. Robson was not only an obvious choice, it was the only choice. It wasn't even a choice. Robson brought experience, respect from the world of football, ideas, tactical knowledge, player knowledge etc etc etc to the role and Shepeherd sat there watching, taking his millions and lapping it up. He hardly had to work. As I said, Robson carried us. Shepherd spent some money we made based on our GREAT manager's recommendations. That's all he did. That's the very least a chairman should be doing. Is he as bad as Ashley? No. Was he any good? No! Apart from the times when he didn't. Like going out and buying Carr because he didn't fancy Robsons choice, Miguel. Or this gem - "I wanted to sign Carrick for Newcastle in the summer of 2004 for £3million but my chairman preferred the cheaper option, Nicky Butt". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Robson, the team & Robert. That's it. Shepherd gets no credit for all that from me. Robson was not only an obvious choice, it was the only choice. It wasn't even a choice. Robson brought experience, respect from the world of football, ideas, tactical knowledge, player knowledge etc etc etc to the role and Shepeherd sat there watching, taking his millions and lapping it up. He hardly had to work. As I said, Robson carried us. Shepherd spent some money we made based on our GREAT manager's recommendations. That's all he did. That's the very least a chairman should be doing. Is he as bad as Ashley? No. Was he any good? No! Apart from the times when he didn't. Like going out and buying Carr because he didn't fancy Robsons choice, Miguel. Or this gem - "I wanted to sign Carrick for Newcastle in the summer of 2004 for £3million but my chairman preferred the cheaper option, Nicky Butt". :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 There wouldn't have been a club existing now if Shepherd had been given another year or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 There wouldn't have been a club existing now if Shepherd had been given another year or two. Not so sure about this. And we don't exactly have much of a club right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'd sooner take living on the edge with Shepherd over this comfort-zone shite we have at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 There wouldn't have been a club existing now if Shepherd had been given another year or two. Old ground and still rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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