AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On the face of it its good characteristic but essentially its not loyalty now, its just exploitation. You can still be loyal to the football club by not attending games, and protesting. In fact that's a greater show of loyalty imo I totally agree, but it's a concept that's tricky to communicate to some fans. A lot of us tried to convince you for several years, what was the straw that broke the camels back with you so I can use it on others Fair point, I guess everyone has a different threshold. I'd like to think I never supported anyone out of blind loyalty, but I guess I did have a tendency to support people because they were part of NUFC. I was fairly happy with the financial and transfer strategy initially, when I believed it was about getting cheap quality talent and selling the odd one to pay for it. And it took me a while to realise that we didn't care about finishing higher up the league. With Pardew it's hard to say, it was just accumulation of bad decisions that came to a head with us getting rid of HBA/Mapou/Santon etc for absolutely no reason. Overall it was just that I started to realise how ridiculous debates about individual decisions and players etc were in the context of a club that wasn't trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On the face of it its good characteristic but essentially its not loyalty now, its just exploitation. You can still be loyal to the football club by not attending games, and protesting. In fact that's a greater show of loyalty imo This Loyalty can manifest itself in more ways than just turning up to a game - because you can. Besides, since when was loyalty a prerequisite for supporting a football club? I support Newcastle because its always been my team, I was raised there & it feels part of me. I therefore reserve the right to fall out with it, love it, hate it & turn up to or boycott as many games as I see fit because, like a religion, there are times when your faith is severely tested & times when it can be uplifting. A more fitting analogy would be that, having married a stunner in your early years, she turns out to be a fat useless boiler that your stuck with for life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On the face of it its good characteristic but essentially its not loyalty now, its just exploitation. You can still be loyal to the football club by not attending games, and protesting. In fact that's a greater show of loyalty imo This Loyalty can manifest itself in more ways than just turning up to a game - because you can. Besides, since when was loyalty a prerequisite for supporting a football club? I support Newcastle because its always been my team, I was raised there & it feels part of me. I therefore reserve the right to fall out with it, love it, hate it & turn up to or boycott as many games as I see fit because, like a religion, there are times when your faith is severely tested & times when it can be uplifting. A more fitting analogy would be that, having married a stunner in your early years, she turns out to be a fat useless boiler that your stuck with for life. Last sentence... class! Sums up my NUFC love... at newcastle college in late eighties, keegan promotes us, wonder years, decline sets in and is cemented by a fat pri** sucking the soul out of it. A real fat mingin pig boiler tbf... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-united-live-john-carver-9099821 If anyone cares he seems too sympathetic towards them imo (Douglas) Chris Cheetham, @cheetz88: What happened to the 80 candidates that charnley had said applied is this more lies and smoke screen?? Mark says: I think the 80 was just a figure to show there was interest. They talked to half a dozen or more I'd say - but there's no-one new on the radar as of yet. It was always going to be someone known to them - I think NUFC hierarchy got their fingers burned with Kevin Keegan Fingers burned by appointing a manager who wanted to do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Looks like he's fighting the SFA over his fine, whether he's arguing over paying the £7500 or trying his luck to sink his teeth further into Rangers is not clear at the moment. Classless pick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-united-live-john-carver-9099821 If anyone cares he seems too sympathetic towards them imo (Douglas) Chris Cheetham, @cheetz88: What happened to the 80 candidates that charnley had said applied is this more lies and smoke screen?? Mark says: I think the 80 was just a figure to show there was interest. They talked to half a dozen or more I'd say - but there's no-one new on the radar as of yet. It was always going to be someone known to them - I think NUFC hierarchy got their fingers burned with Kevin Keegan Fingers burned by appointing a manager who wanted to do well. I get the feeling that since Keegan your board seeks to only appoint managers that they believe will "owe them a favor"; either assistant managers given a chance at the main job (Hughton, Carver) or hasbeens that had fallen off the face of the earth (Kinnear, Pardew). A way to foster a servility that they wouldn't get with a reputable manager able to get a job elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/11563435/How-fair-does-Sports-Direct-play.html It is certainly true that Sports Direct has benefited from Ashley’s ownership of Newcastle. If you visit the club shop at St James’ Park (which Ashley briefly tried to rename the Sports Direct arena before backing down), it is a Sports Direct Shop. And the stadium, too, is plastered in adverts for the retail chain, a privilege for which Sports Direct does not pay, according to Newcastle United itself. Indeed, Newcastle United contributed £3.4m in revenue to Sports Direct last year, according to the retailer’s annual report. And Rangers Football club, in which Ashley has a 9pc stake, is also a contributor to Sports Direct’s revenues, handing over £3.8m last year. Awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/11563435/How-fair-does-Sports-Direct-play.html It is certainly true that Sports Direct has benefited from Ashley’s ownership of Newcastle. If you visit the club shop at St James’ Park (which Ashley briefly tried to rename the Sports Direct arena before backing down), it is a Sports Direct Shop. And the stadium, too, is plastered in adverts for the retail chain, a privilege for which Sports Direct does not pay, according to Newcastle United itself. Indeed, Newcastle United contributed £3.4m in revenue to Sports Direct last year, according to the retailer’s annual report. And Rangers Football club, in which Ashley has a 9pc stake, is also a contributor to Sports Direct’s revenues, handing over £3.8m last year. Awesome. The spotlight is on the fat man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 £3.4million declared, no doubt provides an awful lot more as we all know Ashley uses the figures to his own advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Love this in the nufc.com match report "By placing a value on everything, he's forced people to evaluate NUFC in those terms - and conclude it's not worth it." No better words have ever been written to describe Ashley's ownership of NUFC. Gut wrenching indeed. However, that's precisely why I have so much respect for the likes of MAOC, AO.com, Caulkin and the like, because they're trying to re-claim the invaluable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He's definitely getting a lot more stick from the press: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-diary-newcastles-slump-5590857? Best bit: Consider: a Premier League consisting of three or four teams fighting the drop, four or five scrapping for the European places, and everybody else existing in a strange limbo, devoted to the business of staying a Premier League club purely because staying a Premier League club is good business. Kind of like now, but much, much worse. Even though Newcastle seem okay, as these things go, they absolutely must secure an unlikely relegation. That's the last thing we've got to cling to: this shambles of an owner cannot be permitted to be correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He's definitely getting a lot more stick from the press: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-diary-newcastles-slump-5590857? Best bit: Consider: a Premier League consisting of three or four teams fighting the drop, four or five scrapping for the European places, and everybody else existing in a strange limbo, devoted to the business of staying a Premier League club purely because staying a Premier League club is good business. Kind of like now, but much, much worse. Even though Newcastle seem okay, as these things go, they absolutely must secure an unlikely relegation. That's the last thing we've got to cling to: this shambles of an owner cannot be permitted to be correct. I am glad the media are starting to see the bigger picture. If Ashley's running of NUFC is deemed a success (as it has been to date) then other clubs will follow suit and it will kill the league to the point where you might as well reduce the league to 10-12 clubs as everyone is just trying to do enough to stay on the gravy train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He's definitely getting a lot more stick from the press: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-diary-newcastles-slump-5590857? Best bit: Consider: a Premier League consisting of three or four teams fighting the drop, four or five scrapping for the European places, and everybody else existing in a strange limbo, devoted to the business of staying a Premier League club purely because staying a Premier League club is good business. Kind of like now, but much, much worse. Even though Newcastle seem okay, as these things go, they absolutely must secure an unlikely relegation. That's the last thing we've got to cling to: this shambles of an owner cannot be permitted to be correct. I am glad the media are starting to see the bigger picture. If Ashley's running of NUFC is deemed a success (as it has been to date) then other clubs will follow suit and it will kill the league to the point where you might as well reduce the league to 10-12 clubs as everyone is just trying to do enough to stay on the gravy train. Aye, this has been my hope. Enough clubs of big sizes don't bother to compete and are just happy to turn profits. Us, Spurs, Villa, Southampton, Swansea, West Ham just not bothering too much as long as we are safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Secrets of Sports Direct on Channel 4 now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Misleading the general public is part of the plan in every aspect of his businesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He is a piece of shit in all aspects of life. Why does someone as fat as him never have a heart attack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He is a piece of s*** in all aspects of life. Why does someone as fat as him never have a heart attack? Knowing our luck he will probably leave us in his will to Karl Oyston to carry on his work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Thing is though, it's cheap sports clothing. Nobody gives a fuck why it's cheap; it's still decent quality stuff in many cases. People are treated like mugs because unfortunately a lot of them are. Difference with NUFC is that people can't go elsewhere, and the quality is fucking abysmal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 10 times richer than the queen ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Not exactly groundbreaking this is doc, is it? They should be getting their hands much dirtier to get at him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 This is pretty shit so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Does Ashley have his fingers in Sweatshop, the running shop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Bet Ashley is pissing himself laughing at this 'shocking' expose. FFS. Was hoping they were gonna link him to Saville-gate or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Does Ashley have his fingers in Sweatshop, the running shop? Apt name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Bet Ashley is pissing himself laughing at this 'shocking' expose. FFS. Was hoping they were gonna link him to Saville-gate or something. There's a brilliantly simple Paint job to be made right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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