mosstef Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/05/must-read-my-thoughts-on-the-most-convincing-defense-of-mike-ashley-ive-read/ My thoughts on Ashley Great article! Good work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/05/must-read-my-thoughts-on-the-most-convincing-defense-of-mike-ashley-ive-read/ My thoughts on Ashley Truly fantastic piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Cheers all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 You smashed it, you baller, HF. This Matt guy is just kicking off though on Twitter, it seems: Matt5cott @Matt5cottfrom Twitter5m @NUFCTheMag @MikeAshleyLies Thanks for writing your blog on my column. At risk of ever-decreasing circles, may I respond to the response? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Hardly kicking off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/05/must-read-my-thoughts-on-the-most-convincing-defense-of-mike-ashley-ive-read/ My thoughts on Ashley Nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Yeah seems it there right enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Bang on that, HF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 That Matt Scott is he most obnoxious cunt on the planet. HF has rinsed him and he's just spouting total shit on twitter now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Someone's going to have to explain to me why not having won anything for ages means we're not entitled to want to win something now. It just seems completely backwards to me. Okay if we were a club that had never been out of the third tier of English football then the 'delusion' thing might stack up, but we're not. Nearly all trophies are won by the same few clubs, that doesn't mean it's acceptable for everyone else to simply give up and accept it year on year. What a fucking joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 It's the "high expectations" cliche. People saying/thinking that Newcastle fans expect to win anything and everything, and mocking the notion even though it doesn't actually really exist. It's genuinely that stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Someone's going to have to explain to me why not having won anything for ages means we're not entitled to want to win something now. It just seems completely backwards to me. Okay if we were a club that had never been out of the third tier of English football then the 'delusion' thing might stack up, but we're not. Nearly all trophies are won by the same few clubs, that doesn't mean it's acceptable for everyone else to simply give up and accept it year on year. What a f***ing joke. Challenging for things is fucking dodgy man, it can get you almost relegated...oh wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Aston Villa haven't won the FA Cup since 1957. Arsenal are the current holders. By the logic above, Aston Villa supporters cannot expect anything but a comprehensive defeat and are deluded if they so much as attend the match. They should know their place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 That Matt Scott is he most obnoxious cunt on the planet. HF has rinsed him and he's just spouting total shit on twitter now. This bloke is backing him, a genuine mental: https://twitter.com/robbie_philpott/with_replies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 It's the "high expectations" cliche. People saying/thinking that Newcastle fans expect to win anything and everything, and mocking the notion even though it doesn't actually really exist. It's genuinely that stupid. It's obvious he knows nowt about football and resorts to pathetic cliches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 It's the "high expectations" cliche. People saying/thinking that Newcastle fans expect to win anything and everything, and mocking the notion even though it doesn't actually really exist. It's genuinely that stupid. It's obvious he knows nowt about football and resorts to pathetic cliches. He's a journalist specialising in football finances. Quite a depressing state of affairs that such a thing even exists tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 It's the "high expectations" cliche. People saying/thinking that Newcastle fans expect to win anything and everything, and mocking the notion even though it doesn't actually really exist. It's genuinely that stupid. It's obvious he knows nowt about football and resorts to pathetic cliches. He's a journalist specialising in football finances. Quite a depressing state of affairs that such a thing even exists tbh. Aye. He thinks we're financially sound and to nerds like him, that's all that matters. Forget that Ashley's 8 years have been disgustingly bad... Seriously, imagine how dour you must be to be more interested in finances than the actual football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 It's the "high expectations" cliche. People saying/thinking that Newcastle fans expect to win anything and everything, and mocking the notion even though it doesn't actually really exist. It's genuinely that stupid. It's obvious he knows nowt about football and resorts to pathetic cliches. He's a journalist specialising in football finances. Quite a depressing state of affairs that such a thing even exists tbh. Aye. He thinks we're financially sound and to nerds like him, that's all that matters. Forget that Ashley's 8 years have been disgustingly bad... Seriously, imagine how dour you must be to be more interested in finances than the actual football. Nearly as dour as thinking Hatem Ben Arfa wouldn't have contributed more than Gouffran this season? Aye sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 It's the "high expectations" cliche. People saying/thinking that Newcastle fans expect to win anything and everything, and mocking the notion even though it doesn't actually really exist. It's genuinely that stupid. It's obvious he knows nowt about football and resorts to pathetic cliches. He's a journalist specialising in football finances. Quite a depressing state of affairs that such a thing even exists tbh. Aye. He thinks we're financially sound and to nerds like him, that's all that matters. Forget that Ashley's 8 years have been disgustingly bad... Seriously, imagine how dour you must be to be more interested in finances than the actual football. Nearly as dour as thinking Hatem Ben Arfa wouldn't have contributed more than Gouffran this season? Aye sound. I didn't say that. Anyway, let it go. The reaction to people not worshipping Ben Arfa on here is...creepy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I didn't say that. Anyway, let it go. The reaction to people not worshipping Ben Arfa on here is...creepy. Righto then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I didn't say that. Anyway, let it go. The reaction to people not worshipping Ben Arfa on here is...creepy. You can't say "let it go" and then stick that last sentence in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Saying Hatem Ben Arfa would have been more productive this season than Gabriel Obertan, Yoan Gouffran and Sammy Ameobi = creepy hero worship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The creepiness is tongue in cheek man. Not saying it's my own tongue like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Someone's going to have to explain to me why not having won anything for ages means we're not entitled to want to win something now. It just seems completely backwards to me. Okay if we were a club that had never been out of the third tier of English football then the 'delusion' thing might stack up, but we're not. Nearly all trophies are won by the same few clubs, that doesn't mean it's acceptable for everyone else to simply give up and accept it year on year. What a fucking joke. It's all linked in with the whole attitude of English football culture towards the Premier League and it drives me demented. In the same way that a Champions League place slowly usurped winning anything throughout the early 2000s to the point where it just became accepted as the form, we're creeping ever closer to the point where just being in the Premier League also trumps having anything in the cabinet, where keeping a team who were already in it in the top 85% of the division gets you automatically spoken of as a possible manager of the year. How many times do you read that Lower League Club X "would give anything to be in Newcastle's position"? It's difficult to fully understand the reality of NUFC if you don't experience it as part of your daily life, if you didn't have Alan Pardew sucking the life force out of you for four years to the point where you wanted to do absolutely anything than go to the match. A sporting institution desperately trying not to compete in their sport isn't something you can wrap your head round if you haven't lived it. I'd swap situations with the vast majority of clubs in the Football League in a heartbeat if it meant I could have a bit of pride in being a Newcastle fan again, and have everyone at the club pulling in the same direction. I've got tons of Boro fans on my Facebook and it made me genuinely sad seeing how proud and excited they were to be in the play-off final. Their disappointment at not winning it doesn't come close to what I experience on a daily basis, a genuine loathing for almost everybody at what used to be my football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Someone's going to have to explain to me why not having won anything for ages means we're not entitled to want to win something now. It just seems completely backwards to me. Okay if we were a club that had never been out of the third tier of English football then the 'delusion' thing might stack up, but we're not. Nearly all trophies are won by the same few clubs, that doesn't mean it's acceptable for everyone else to simply give up and accept it year on year. What a fucking joke. It's all linked in with the whole attitude of English football culture towards the Premier League and it drives me demented. In the same way that a Champions League place slowly usurped winning anything throughout the early 2000s to the point where it just became accepted as the form, we're creeping ever closer to the point where just being in the Premier League also trumps having anything in the cabinet, where keeping a team who were already in it in the top 85% of the division gets you automatically spoken of as a possible manager of the year. How many times do you read that Lower League Club X "would give anything to be in Newcastle's position"? It's difficult to fully understand the reality of NUFC if you don't experience it as part of your daily life, if you didn't have Alan Pardew sucking the life force out of you for four years to the point where you wanted to do absolutely anything than go to the match. A sporting institution desperately trying not to compete in their sport isn't something you can wrap your head round if you haven't lived it. I'd swap situations with the vast majority of clubs in the Football League in a heartbeat if it meant I could have a bit of pride in being a Newcastle fan again, and have everyone at the club pulling in the same direction. I've got tons of Boro fans on my Facebook and it made me genuinely sad seeing how proud and excited they were to be in the play-off final. Their disappointment at not winning it doesn't come close to what I experience on a daily basis, a genuine loathing for almost everybody at what used to be my football club. MA, LC, AP game plan has always been the normalisation of deviance. Unfortunately for football Premier League existence has become the desired state, be happy to be in the top x% of all clubs in the land regardless of whether you demonstrate ambition or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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