Darth Crooks Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I do t really think you can claim to know the extent of his non ambition that early on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 10:09, Eddy Chibas said: When Ashley first took over (way before Keegangate) I recall about four or five members who saw through Ashley and were laughed off this forum, for our pro-FS/anti-Ashley positions ...... They were NE5, Howaythelads, myself (old account/The Shaman) and a couple of others. Purely based on his early business dealings I called him out as being a "razor cutting rat". Not claiming the higher ground, or the mystic Meg position. Have to admit though, in hindsight, Ashley played a PR blinder, pulled out his A Game at the time before his conartist standard of ethics began to shine through ie. drinking p*ss with the match going supporters, wanting to be one of the lads in terraces. Should have kept your original username with this insight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 10:15, Darth Crooks said: I do t really think you can claim to know the extent of his non ambition that early on. Exactly. We were scraping the barrel for free/low fee transfers with Fat Sham before he took over and he spent some money and generally bought someone for every position we needed. Then he sacked Fat Sham and brought back Keegan. How anyone could 'see through him' at that stage is beyond me considering he had brought instant improvement in his first year in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Where's Mick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Where's Ronaldo for that matter? Been unnervingly quiet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 10:19, Greg said: Where's Mick? Disappeared again after returning for a month or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Lol you hate the fact he was right ? The butthurt is strong with some of you . Fred v Ashley . Want to try answering the question ? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Definitely NE5. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 10:18, Skeletor said: Quote I do t really think you can claim to know the extent of his non ambition that early on. Exactly. We were scraping the barrel for free/low fee transfers with Fat Sham before he took over and he spent some money and generally bought someone for every position we needed. Then he sacked Fat Sham and brought back Keegan. How anyone could 'see through him' at that stage is beyond me considering he had brought instant improvement in his first year in charge. It wasn't a flash of genius . Just a moment of clarity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 'butthurt' What a melt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 10:18, Skeletor said: Quote I do t really think you can claim to know the extent of his non ambition that early on. Exactly. We were scraping the barrel for free/low fee transfers with Fat Sham before he took over and he spent some money and generally bought someone for every position we needed. Then he sacked Fat Sham and brought back Keegan. How anyone could 'see through him' at that stage is beyond me considering he had brought instant improvement in his first year in charge. Easy to forget that the 12 months before he left were a shambles. Roeder appointed on the cheap, we got Duff because he refused to sign for rivals Spurs and was so cheap (£5m), Martins was a desperation signing (first choices going elsewhere like Kuyt, Shearer retiring, Owen getting a long-term injury in the World Cup). Then we had the likes of Rossi for 5 months, Sibierski, Srnicek, Onyewu on loan, Bernard back ffs. We narrowly avoided relegation just before he had to sell up, and financially we were fucked. Anyone doing due-dilligence wouldn't touch us and it took an idiot to take it on. If you extended the Ashley reign 12 months earlier, you'd not have noticed any difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I love the fact that none of you seem to be able to answer my question ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Having a hand chopped off is better than having an arm which is rotting and falling off I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Fred every time despite his tunnel vision regarding trophy signings and the idiocy of getting Souness in . Perhaps just perhaps he wouldve learned from his mistakes and the still ever increasing tv money wouldve helped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 10:37, The Little Waster said: Fred every time despite his tunnel vision regarding trophy signings and the idiocy of getting Souness in . Perhaps just perhaps he wouldve learned from his mistakes and the still ever increasing tv money wouldve helped Give ower, really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Everyone would have Shepherd in this bizarre universe you've created where there's only a choice between the two. Like MD said though, it would be because he'd sell. In terms of running the club, it's like asking what you'd rather die of and is a completely pointless question. I'd rather the club didn't exist at all so we could start again, than for Ashley to be in charge, so not being Ashley isn't an endorsement of anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 10:37, The Little Waster said: Fred every time despite his tunnel vision regarding trophy signings and the idiocy of getting Souness in . Perhaps just perhaps he wouldve learned from his mistakes and the still ever increasing tv money wouldve helped Didn't Shepherd have ten years to learn from his mistakes? And he could've still managed it? Why are you writing Ashley off so soon? He's also had only ten years. #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Whats the point in this argument like? So what if someone "called it" before someone else did, the fucking point of it? He's the one ruining the club, everyone knows that, the more press that forces his hand and potentially gets him to sell the better, but no, lets argue about something from 10 years ago. Howay man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Is Stevie the old mentalist back again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'll be honest like, I did not expect to read the word 'butthurt' from a bloke who's alias is 'The Little Waster' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Butthurt Isn't this bloke well past middle age? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Lads there was an interview recently where a business man said he was interested in buying the club but Ashkeybdidnt show up to the meeting. Anyone remember who it was? Or did I dream this up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 12:09, Jesse Pinkman said: Lads there was an interview recently where a business man said he was interested in buying the club but Ashkeybdidnt show up to the meeting. Anyone remember who it was? Or did I dream this up? Is this the middle east thing? Where he ended up going on the piss or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 12:09, Jesse Pinkman said: Lads there was an interview recently where a business man said he was interested in buying the club but Ashkeybdidnt show up to the meeting. Anyone remember who it was? Or did I dream this up? Man City's owners before they bought them apparently! If only! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 To be fair there were some extremely low points when Shepherd was here but in all my years of supporting the club I've never felt it to be as much of a pointless waste of time as it is now. Shepherd was a bell, no doubt but if it was a straight choice between him and Ashley I'd pick Shepherd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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