Mike Ashley

[Big Geordie]

I believe Pardew has the next two games (if at all) Two defeats will see him gone. I think Ashley would sooner jettison Pardew than have more heat turned on himself.

 

Agree totally BG - I also think Pardew has 2 games, 3 at best, to save his skin...not that I want him to because I think he's a disastrous manager, but as always, it is the likely next contender that makes us all nervous because we know Ashley is a loose cannon and could bring in another tosser.

 

The likes of Poyet and RDM are the best we could hope for under this regime and maybe even that is stretching it...

 

Kinnear will have himself lined up should Pardew be binned.

[Dokko]

He'll get what he deserves; a championship club by the end of the season.

 

 

[biggs]

He'll get what he deserves; a championship club by the end of the season.

 

 

TBh relegation in the short/long  term may be a blessing in disguise if Ashleys revenue stream suffers and he trys to sell actively

[r0cafella]

He'll get what he deserves; a championship club by the end of the season.

 

 

TBh relegation in the short/long  term may be a blessing in disguise if Ashleys revenue stream suffers and he trys to sell actively

 

We thought this the first time around and nothing materialised.

 

Club is pretty much un-sellable whilst it's straddled with that debt, interest free or not.

[Wallace]

I know it's the Mail, but worth sharing;

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz2gSidsn7D

 

Ashley joined Kinnear at Everton as Toon fans suffered... but are they listening?

By DOMINIC KING

 

The game had just been effectively taken from their reach when the chant erupted. Having travelled 190 miles to watch their team perform atrociously for 45 minutes, the Newcastle supporters let their feelings be known.

 

'We want our money back!' they hollered repeatedly, as Everton celebrations following Ross Barkley’s splendid second goal subsided.

 

Then, as Romelu Lukaku sauntered on to a Tim Howard’s long ball to grab his second goal of the night, those housed in the corner of the Bullens Road stand turned their attentions elsewhere.

'

You cockney b*******! Get out of our club!' they exclaimed.

 

No prizes for guessing who the invective was reserved for. Visits from Newcastle United used to be colourful, enjoyable occasions. You were guaranteed an entertaining, keenly contested game and the supporters who ventured down from the Northeast would add to the occasion.

 

The Newcastle United of 2013, however, is very different to the one that went before. Though there was an impressive rally when substitute Yohan Cabaye and Loic Remy gave hope of an improbable comeback, it should not mask the lack of quality and passion in Newcastle’s play at Goodison Park.

 

Standing in his technical area, running his hands through his hair and scribbling observations in a little black note book, Alan Pardew looked forlorn, at the end of his tether in the first half. He needs all the help he can get from his players but, here, none was forthcoming. It hasn’t been for months.

 

With owner Mike Ashley and Director of Football Joe Kinnear watching and scrutinising events, seemingly waiting to be given any excuse to relieve him of his duties, results and performances as bad as the first 45 minutes only serve to make Pardew’s position even less secure.

 

But if they do happen to get rid of Pardew, what good would that do this lumbering giant of a club? The away end was far from full at Goodison, seeming to suggest the fans that used to travel in droves are growing weary of the continual soap opera that dogs their club.

 

Newcastle could be a real force with the right investment. Their stadium is fantastic, the city would come alive if success came their way and the history of the club should both attract good players and make them proud to play for ‘The Toon’.

 

For some risible reason, however, the current regime appears happy for it to sink slowly away. Do Ashley and Kinnear have any genuine desire to see Newcastle compete? Do they understand the frustration and hurt their actions are generating?

If they hadn’t before, the situation should have become loud and clear after Barkley’s effort had rippled beyond Tim Krul. There was a crumb of consolation with the second half performance but not enough to make the journey home pleasant. They deserve so much better.

 

This is what I don't get about Ashley.  Everyone says we could we a real force if managed correctly but that Ashley seems happy to let it all slip away.  I keep saying it but the longer he stays, the more damaged the club becomes.  I get that he wants the club to be self-sufficient, I get the transfer policy but I don't get why he is happy for the club to sink into terminal decline.

 

I know he probably thinks he knows best but he must hear of all this criticism which is coming from all areas - it is not just the fans, it is ex-players, experienced football people, the media.  I wonder if he ever thinks "they have a point".

 

He may not care about NUFC but does he not even care that he is damaging his investment.  And all that free publicity will not be as effective if we get relegated.

[J7]

He'll get what he deserves; a championship club by the end of the season.

 

 

TBh relegation in the short/long  term may be a blessing in disguise if Ashleys revenue stream suffers and he trys to sell actively

 

We thought this the first time around and nothing materialised.

 

Club is pretty much un-sellable whilst it's straddled with that debt, interest free or not.

He basically washed his hands with the club over that summer. The only thing he didn't do was have a fire sale, basically because he could afford not to. He only started to get slightly interested again once Hughton, Nolan, Barton and co somehow managed to sort us out into an actual football team again.

[Theregulars]

He's the worst kind of villain; the one whose motives are completely incomprehensible.

[merlin]

I believe Pardew has the next two games (if at all) Two defeats will see him gone. I think Ashley would sooner jettison Pardew than have more heat turned on himself.

 

Agree totally BG - I also think Pardew has 2 games, 3 at best, to save his skin...not that I want him to because I think he's a disastrous manager, but as always, it is the likely next contender that makes us all nervous because we know Ashley is a loose cannon and could bring in another tosser.

 

The likes of Poyet and RDM are the best we could hope for under this regime and maybe even that is stretching it...

 

Kinnear will have himself lined up should Pardew be binned.

 

He might, but I reckon he's a short-term fill-in at best....health isn't good enough to do PL management now.

[mrmojorisin75]

He might, but I reckon he's a short-term fill-in at best....health isn't good enough to do PL management now.

 

i've been wondering this, do clubs have to insure managers like they do players?  they'd never get insurance for kinnear like - also MA would be proving himself to be the worst cunt imaginable if he appointed him if only from the health side

[ads]

Good article that.

 

Did anyone see Joey Bartons (yeah......I know) tweet last night about 'giving MA an excuse get rid of Pardew'? He tweeted it whilst we were 3 down but the tone was interesting. As though it's common knowledge that MA wants rid/is looking for an excuse.

 

The article above also suggests that MA/JFK are 'waiting for an excuse'.

 

Strange given MA has never seemed to need an excuse.

 

I half expected him to be gone this am. I think the only thing keeping him in a job is the sheer lack of replacements on the market.

 

Ashley is  an idiot, should have sacked pardew in the summer when there were quiet a few interesting managers available.

 

I think i would be shocked if he actually sacked him...

 

I can see it happening if the next few results go against us, especially another battering at the hands of Liverpool, and we'd all welcome that.

 

However, the reality of who might replace him will soon kick in.

[Cronky]

Good article that.

 

Did anyone see Joey Bartons (yeah......I know) tweet last night about 'giving MA an excuse get rid of Pardew'? He tweeted it whilst we were 3 down but the tone was interesting. As though it's common knowledge that MA wants rid/is looking for an excuse.

 

The article above also suggests that MA/JFK are 'waiting for an excuse'.

 

Strange given MA has never seemed to need an excuse.

 

I half expected him to be gone this am. I think the only thing keeping him in a job is the sheer lack of replacements on the market.

 

I can't see that Ashley would 'need an excuse' to sack Pardew. There wouldn't be a public outcry if Pardew went - only if Kinnear took his place, which I don't think will happen.

 

I just think Ashley was prepared to give Pardew another season to put things right. Kinnear was appointed as Ashley's personal football adviser. What Ashley habitually seems to under-estimate is the political issues that come with these kinds of decisions in football clubs. If that kind of move was made within the management structure of Sports Direct, no-one would give a damn. But a football club is an institution in the public eye, and that has repercussions.

[Tachikoma]

Yeah, that seems plausible enough. If that is the case Pardew might not have much longer left barring a miraculous upturn in form, because the next 7 games will almost certainly plant us in the bottom 3 on the form we're having.

[Dave]

Not sure about that regarding no public outcry. A lot of fans and certainly the media continue to cling to the 5th as more representative of his ability. And he's certainly been let down in the transfer market. Until Ashley goes this won't change anyway.

[Big Geordie]

Attendances are taking a hit, now I would say. I know there was a full house v Hull, but that was on the back of two wins v Fulham and Villa.

[Guest Roger Kint]

Attendances are taking a hit, now I would say. I know there was a full house v Hull, but that was on the back of two wins v Fulham and Villa.

 

True, it also didn't look full at Everton away which is very rare for us.

 

I know people who wanted tickets and the club said it sold out. They must have rejected the full allocation early on and to hell with anyone else wanting tickets.

[Wallace]

Attendances are taking a hit, now I would say. I know there was a full house v Hull, but that was on the back of two wins v Fulham and Villa.

 

True, it also didn't look full at Everton away which is very rare for us.

 

I know people who wanted tickets and the club said it sold out. They must have rejected the full allocation early on and to hell with anyone else wanting tickets.

 

They definitely took the lower allocation.  However, there were tons of empty spaces in the away end so we either didn't sell all the tickets or people decided not to bother coming.

 

[Big Geordie]

.com reckoned there was less than 1000 there.

[Guest Roger Kint]

Attendances are taking a hit, now I would say. I know there was a full house v Hull, but that was on the back of two wins v Fulham and Villa.

 

True, it also didn't look full at Everton away which is very rare for us.

 

I know people who wanted tickets and the club said it sold out. They must have rejected the full allocation early on and to hell with anyone else wanting tickets.

 

They definitely took the lower allocation.  However, there were tons of empty spaces in the away end so we either didn't sell all the tickets or people decided not to bother coming.

 

 

Makes you wonder as two of the lads in question were asking everywhere without getting any joy at all. I know there was a coach on fire on the motorway but that wouldnt account for too many missing fans

[Wallace]

Typically two opposing viewpoints in the local papers today. 

 

The Journal reckons that Kinnear has no interest in the manager's job and is supportive of Pardew's need for a strong physical goal-scoring centre-half whereas The Chronicle reckons that Kinnear will be the next manager.

 

 

 

[Guest Roger Kint]

Typically two opposing viewpoints in the local papers today. 

 

The Journal reckons that Kinnear has no interest in the manager's job and is supportive of Pardew's need for a strong physical goal-scoring centre-half whereas The Chronicle reckons that Kinnear will be the next manager.

 

 

 

 

I would guess Ryder is basing his on Wraith's comments whereas the Journal may have worked on theirs(please God )

[TRon]

I wonder if attendances would take a hit if JFK got the job?

 

Whatever the attendances, those that do turn up on match days are not likely to give Kinnear or Ashley an easy ride if JFK is installed as manager. I just can't see why either would put themselves through that rather than just appoint a proper manager. I know everyone assumes that Kinnear will be the next manager but I don't think so.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I wonder if attendances would take a hit if JFK got the job?

 

Whatever the attendances, those that do turn up on match days are not likely to give Kinnear or Ashley an easy ride if JFK is installed as manager. I just can't see why either would put themselves through that rather than just appoint a proper manager. I know everyone assumes that Kinnear will be the next manager but I don't think so.

 

Yep, at least Pardew appears like a relatively normal manager to most fans. JFK is an absolute mess.

[Disco]

Attendances are taking a hit, now I would say. I know there was a full house v Hull, but that was on the back of two wins v Fulham and Villa.

 

True, it also didn't look full at Everton away which is very rare for us.

 

I know people who wanted tickets and the club said it sold out. They must have rejected the full allocation early on and to hell with anyone else wanting tickets.

 

They definitely took the lower allocation.  However, there were tons of empty spaces in the away end so we either didn't sell all the tickets or people decided not to bother coming.

 

 

Whole of the Upper Bullens was empty. There was a decent piece in the Mag about the denigration of our away support t'other day. Taking a reduced allocation at Cardiff n all incase the club are bankrupted by unsold tickets.

[merlin]

Not sure about that regarding no public outcry. A lot of fans and certainly the media continue to cling to the 5th as more representative of his ability. And he's certainly been let down in the transfer market. Until Ashley goes this won't change anyway.

 

How can a large percentage of either fans or media think that ONE 5th place finish is representative of Pardew's real ability when he has demonstrated with 4 clubs that it isn't ?

These people must have very little idea about track records and CVs.....

[Big Geordie]

More on the St James Park advertising. Have to say, am not surprised.

 

http://nufcdaily.wordpress.com/2013/...lie-yet-again/

 

The club lie yet again!

Not coming down any time soon

 

You will remember last week that I did an article about how Sports Direct do not pay any advertising for the hideous boards that adorn St James’ Park, and I reported how someone was interested in buying the space for local businesses and even the Sir Bobby Robson foundation. While I did not hold out much hope that the person in question would get very far with his endeavour, what I didn’t expect (but probably should have expected) is that the club have misled the fans once again.

 

This is the article posted on The Mag, outlining the issue,

 

“Last week I wrote an article about making an offer to sponsor some of the advertising boards around the ground and I nominated Sir Bobby Robson’s Charity to be advertised. May I start off by saying thank you to everyone who made an offer to help. The offers altogether were in the region of about £3,000 EVERY HOME GAME!!!!!

 

This followed Newcastle United directors stating in the minutes of a fans forum;

 

‘The club explained that the advertising boards in question were installed with Sports Direct branding as a showcase for unused space. Sports Direct don’t pay but it would be sold if other advertisers wanted the space.’

 

After my original email to the club and 5 unanswered voicemails left for people in the marketing department of the club, I heard nothing back. That is until now…

 

I was contacted by someone high up in the marketing department of the club (I have their name but won’t publish it here) and this is exactly what I was told;

 

“The club hold back ALL advertising boards, both L.E.D and normal boards, for official partners who pay a lot of money to keep them there”.

 

The person instantly dismissed me when I spoke of the Sir Bobby Foundation and said that is something they would not do. Not once was a price discussed in this very short phone call so they did not want to know if I was willing to pay £1 or £1million per board, that didn’t matter to them.

 

So basically the club has lied (shock horror) in either their recent meeting with NUST & Co at the Fans Forum, where they stated “Sports Direct advertises for free”, or alternatively to me on the phone when they said, “official partners pay a lot of money to keep them there”.

 

Please note he did say that official partners included Thomas Cook and Puma.”

 

There are lies entangled within this situation somewhere, either from the marketing department, or from the club representatives who were answering questions to the fan’s forum. Either way, the club has, once again, been proven to be misleading the fans once more.

 

If the official partners are paying money to “hold back ALL the boards” then why would they want Sports Direct being plastered on it? Surely if our official sponsors are paying for the boards, they would want their own logo adorning the board?

 

To tell you the truth, I’m not surprised. This club is rotten to the core and they are showing themselves up time and time again.

 

What do you think? Who is lying to whom? Did the club reps lie when they said they would sell to advertisers? Or did the marketing rep lie when they said official sponsors pay for the boards?