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The club isn't even spending within it's means, if you factor in that we haven't permanently signed a first team player for the last two transfer windows (assuming de Jong on loan is the only deal this window) Begs the question - where is the money going?

 

Its not?

 

It's spending way, way less than is coming in. Ashley runs the club like paupers, but it's far from it.

 

We made £1.4m in 2013 (2011-2012 accounts).

 

That included around 12M being paid back to Ashley btw.

 

Yep, but presumably every club makes debt repayments. Don't think I can face the argument about how much we should be paying back!

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The club isn't even spending within it's means, if you factor in that we haven't permanently signed a first team player for the last two transfer windows (assuming de Jong on loan is the only deal this window) Begs the question - where is the money going?

 

Its not?

 

It's spending way, way less than is coming in. Ashley runs the club like paupers, but it's far from it.

 

We made £1.4m in 2013 (2011-2012 accounts).

 

That included around 12M being paid back to Ashley btw.

 

That didnt affect the profit though

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Technically the Emporium of Tat sponsorship does show up in the accounts through the reduction in revenue - there's nothing in law to say that you need to charge for advertising although if we are classed as a related party to SPPlc then the markt value would need to be disclosed (at a very high level) in the SD accounts and there would be a profit adjustment for tax purposes.

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We got James Tomkins money now!

 

Having seen him recently, what the fuck was Pardew thinking trying to sign him? :(

 

You sound surprised by a bloke who thought Obertan was good, and continually plays Ameobi ahead of Ben Arfa.

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The club isn't even spending within it's means, if you factor in that we haven't permanently signed a first team player for the last two transfer windows (assuming de Jong on loan is the only deal this window) Begs the question - where is the money going?

 

According to the recent Delloitte figures turnover in 12/13 was £91.8m.  That's down on the year before (£93.3m) despite a europa campaign because of our lower finish in the league.

 

In 11/12 Ashley could afford to pull £11m out AND spend £11m (net) on transfers.

 

Net transfer spend was almost £11m in 12/13 too but Ashley said he would not take out the money (£18m is in my head?) he had planned to...whether that turns out to be true or not remains to be seen but you would expect it to leave us with plenty money in the bank if so.

 

Actually, I calculate it at £95.9m if you go by the other euro conversions in there. (RM: €518.9=£444.7 -> €1=£0.857, so €111.9=£95.9)

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The club isn't even spending within it's means, if you factor in that we haven't permanently signed a first team player for the last two transfer windows (assuming de Jong on loan is the only deal this window) Begs the question - where is the money going?

 

According to the recent Delloitte figures turnover in 12/13 was £91.8m.  That's down on the year before (£93.3m) despite a europa campaign because of our lower finish in the league.

 

In 11/12 Ashley could afford to pull £11m out AND spend £11m (net) on transfers.

 

Net transfer spend was almost £11m in 12/13 too but Ashley said he would not take out the money (£18m is in my head?) he had planned to...whether that turns out to be true or not remains to be seen but you would expect it to leave us with plenty money in the bank if so.

 

Actually, I calculate it at £95.9m if you go by the other euro conversions in there. (RM: €518.9=£444.7 -> €1=£0.857, so €111.9=£95.9)

 

where do we think the money is going? obviously to his backpocket to recover all money the club owes him.

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The wages should be lower since we're counting them as transfer spend.  If we pay £1.5m for a player and count it as a £3m out of the transfer kitty to account for his wages over the contract then that players wages aren't added to the wage calculations, right?  People kept on saying part of the Carroll cash had gone on Tiote's bumper new contract so he's not in our wage calculations, yeah?

 

Our wage bill should be fucking tiny with our bullshit accounting.

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The wages should be lower since we're counting them as transfer spend.  If we pay £1.5m for a player and count it as a £3m out of the transfer kitty to account for his wages over the contract then that players wages aren't added to the wage calculations, right?  People kept on saying part of the Carroll cash had gone on Tiote's bumper new contract so he's not in our wage calculations, yeah?

 

Our wage bill should be fucking tiny with our bullshit accounting.

 

Aye i dont get this shit either. If true surely Cabaye's wages from the remainder of his contract will now be added to the transfer kitty.

 

This system seems to only work one way like.

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The wages should be lower since we're counting them as transfer spend.  If we pay £1.5m for a player and count it as a £3m out of the transfer kitty to account for his wages over the contract then that players wages aren't added to the wage calculations, right?  People kept on saying part of the Carroll cash had gone on Tiote's bumper new contract so he's not in our wage calculations, yeah?

 

Our wage bill should be fucking tiny with our bullshit accounting.

 

Aye i dont get this shit either. If true surely Cabaye's wages from the remainder of his contract will now be added to the transfer kitty.

 

This system seems to only work one way like.

 

Maybe we can reverse buy out his contract in an anti-webster ruling so the transfer ends up costing us a big wad of cash.

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It is a sad day when a person makes you think that they are less worth then dogshit under your shoes. Get to fucking spending fatty or get out.

 

 

 

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The sad thing about Newcastle is that under Mike Ashley we lack both the ambition and the will to challenge for anything other than survival. Ironically, it is amusing to watch Mike Ashley "panic buy" players as soon as relegation is a genuine threath.

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Hard to justify our lack of spending especially when other clubs who aren't that well off are getting deals done in both windows. Unless he is saving it in the coffers and waiting for the huge PL money deals bubble to burst , yeah I know I'm clutching at some big straws  :lol:

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