astraguy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Wonder what Rafa would be aiming for given he only has two seasons left with us now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Wonder what Rafa would be aiming for given he only has two seasons left with us now? Consolidation, push for top 8-10. Based on whether he reckons we could still push on after that will determine if he renews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Cup runs in there too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Don't think the contract length means anything either way in this case. He could be gone tomorrow is Ashley fucks up, or for a decade more if he does the right thing and Rafa keeps enjoying the "project". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ashley will fuck this up massively. Guaranteed. I think Rafa will leave during the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ashley will fuck this up massively. Guaranteed. I think Rafa will leave during the summer. I think we should have a ban on these posts until the start of June. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Would not be surprised one bit if Pardew ended up back here at some point under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 fucking hell man lads, howay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ashley will f*** this up massively. Guaranteed. I think Rafa will leave during the summer. I think we should have a ban on these posts until the start of June. Tbf if pushed to one extreme or the other, I think both those outcomes are more likely than the alternatives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ashley will f*** this up massively. Guaranteed. I think Rafa will leave during the summer. I think we should have a ban on these posts until the start of June. Tbf if pushed to one extreme or the other, I think both those outcomes are more likely than the alternatives I'm not saying it's not likely, I'm just staying wilfully deluded as long as I can. Always worked before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Interesting speculation regarding a potential takeover in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/25/newcastle-premier-league-mike-ashley-rafael-benitez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Interesting speculation regarding a potential takeover in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/25/newcastle-premier-league-mike-ashley-rafael-benitez Mackem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 It's not even a case of SPEND LOADS OF MONEY NOW YA TIGHT b******! It's more simply 'be sensible, back the manager, don't lie'. What do you class as sensible spending for this summer ? However much Rafa thinks he needs to spend in order to achieve whatever he wants to achieve next season, give or take a few million either way. There isn't a specific number. I don't really like the whole "oh, we need to spend X amount," because that isn't how it works. I've argued before that I don't think we need to spend absolutely gazillions in order to create a side that will stay up. We need a minimum of four significant upgrades in defense, midfield and attack to ensure we've got a team capable of surviving, imo. Fuck knows how much they're gonna cost; it'll be whatever the selling clubs are prepared to sell for. Only one problem with that logic - you are assuming that Rafa will be happy just to survive in the premier next season. I doubt it. He's not daft, he'll know we are a couple of years away from having a team he can be proud to call his, but he's going to want a first team that can at least compete with the big boys. Mid table will probably be a realistic ambition for next season but he'll be wanting to hit the European spots by the season after IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ashley will f*** this up massively. Guaranteed. I think Rafa will leave during the summer. I think we should have a ban on these posts until the start of June. Tbf if pushed to one extreme or the other, I think both those outcomes are more likely than the alternatives I'm not saying it's not likely, I'm just staying wilfully deluded as long as I can. Always worked before Good for you. May I ask how that has worked out since 2007 I'm really happy for the supporters and the city. Still think this will not end well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 He's so going to fuck it up again isn't he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Time will tell, and having said that, I'm not gonna think too much about it for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I can not understand how people can start to worry already. Sure, he will 100% fuck everything up down the line, but just dont wast energy on worrying on things you can not control, and enjoy the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 It's not even a case of SPEND LOADS OF MONEY NOW YA TIGHT b******! It's more simply 'be sensible, back the manager, don't lie'. What do you class as sensible spending for this summer ? However much Rafa thinks he needs to spend in order to achieve whatever he wants to achieve next season, give or take a few million either way. There isn't a specific number. I don't really like the whole "oh, we need to spend X amount," because that isn't how it works. I've argued before that I don't think we need to spend absolutely gazillions in order to create a side that will stay up. We need a minimum of four significant upgrades in defense, midfield and attack to ensure we've got a team capable of surviving, imo. Fuck knows how much they're gonna cost; it'll be whatever the selling clubs are prepared to sell for. Only one problem with that logic - you are assuming that Rafa will be happy just to survive in the premier next season. I doubt it. He's not daft, he'll know we are a couple of years away from having a team he can be proud to call his, but he's going to want a first team that can at least compete with the big boys. Mid table will probably be a realistic ambition for next season but he'll be wanting to hit the European spots by the season after IMO. Nah I'm not. My second point about 'what I think we need to survive' is a separate one to what I said in the initial paragraph. I don't know what Rafa's target is for next season; but he's pragmatic enough to know that, despite his ambition, qualifying for Europe is probably unlikely (though far from impossible...) My overall point is that I think it's unrealistic to say "we absolutely must spend THIS, or he's been shafted!" The first order of business is to invest to the point where we've got a squad good enough to survive. Anything beyond that - Rafa, the board and selling clubs will have to 'have out'. I'm optimistic we'll get what we need to see him stay and continue building. On a separate note; some interesting comments from Wheez Keez about a potential takeover. Aye she's a Mackems but she's constantly around NUFC as well. Would love to hear Caulkin's take on it, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Rafa exhausting his extensive network of contacts to land the players he wants Vs The board (under Ashley) propensity to penny pinch (to secure the perfect deal), and deliberately underbid for top targets (as revealed by Keegan). Now the real fun & games begin. Rafa's vision Vs well, Ashley's Sports Direct United's business model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 anyone have an idea at all what the dread louise taylor is banging on about here? https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/25/newcastle-premier-league-mike-ashley-rafael-benitez Will the club be sold in the coming weeks? Watch this space. It is quite possible that nothing will happen and Newcastle simply continue under Mike Ashley’s ownership but senior club sources acknowledge that there has been discreet interest from assorted parties in recent months. If – and it is only an if – a takeover does happen, expect it to be as sudden and unexpected as Manchester City’s switch to Emirati control. Possible buyers? Well, the state of Qatar is reportedly weighing up purchasing a Premier League club and rumours of Chinese interest refuse to disappear. first i've heard of it, tho i've hardly been looking quite hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 anyone have an idea at all what the dread louise taylor is banging on about here? https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/25/newcastle-premier-league-mike-ashley-rafael-benitez Will the club be sold in the coming weeks? Watch this space. It is quite possible that nothing will happen and Newcastle simply continue under Mike Ashley’s ownership but senior club sources acknowledge that there has been discreet interest from assorted parties in recent months. If – and it is only an if – a takeover does happen, expect it to be as sudden and unexpected as Manchester City’s switch to Emirati control. Possible buyers? Well, the state of Qatar is reportedly weighing up purchasing a Premier League club and rumours of Chinese interest refuse to disappear. first i've heard of it, tho i've hardly been looking quite hard. somebody was talking about it on facebook last night- they claimed a deal had been done when Benitez signed and is only proceeding now- I assume cos we are promoted- I call it bullshit tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Only Ashley could agree to sell the club and then alow Carr, Charnley and McLaren to relegate it. :lol: I'll wait fir solid evidence that NUFC are up fir sale before getting interested too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 With the riches in the Premier League and his previous pronouncements on selling the club, I can't see any takeover materialising Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Charnley arrested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I'd be happy with a Qatari zillionaire who would be happy to donate an oil well or two to the cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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