astraguy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 How much have we earned going back up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 How much have we earned going back up? £150m. It would be £200m but they have changed the rules on parachute payments where if you yo yo then you don't get the full amount if you have been relegated in recent seasons (think it is 3 seasons) so at the moment we would get £100m for next season, and if we go down then we would be due the remainder of our parachute payments, which is £50m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I think this will resolve itself quite quickly. Rafa will already know a lot of the players he wants and it'll soon become clearly whether he's happy with his backing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 How much have we earned going back up? £150m. It would be £200m but they have changed the rules on parachute payments where if you yo yo then you don't get the full amount if you have been relegated in recent seasons (think it is 3 seasons) so at the moment we would get £100m for next season, and if we go down then we would be due the remainder of our parachute payments, which is £50m. That's huge adding on selling players too, The trouble is clubs will demand more money from us then they would Burnley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 What should happen is that he trusts Rafa 100% and gets the players Rafa wants without questioning it. What always happens though is that one of his Grima Wormtongue's get in his ear and advise him to do stupid shit. That combined with him being a cheapskate it's always a lethal combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I'll never trust Ashley to do the right thing. This is exactly the time he usually throws his massive 'fuck up' spanner in the works, just when we're all feeling on a high and enjoying supporting the club again. If he could just not be twat this time around we could carry this momentum into a great, feel good PL season but I can't help feeling there's anther disaster looming. I think the fat shit does it out of spite and nothing would spite us more than him shitting on Rafa. I hope to God i'm wrong but would any of us be surprised? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I'll never trust Ashley to do the right thing. This is exactly the time he usually throws his massive 'fuck up' spanner in the works, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I'll never trust Ashley to do the right thing. This is exactly the time he usually throws his massive 'f*** up' spanner in the works, Pardew DoF anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Wonder what Rafa would be aiming for given he only has two seasons left with us now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Wonder what Rafa would be aiming for given he only has two seasons left with us now? Consolidation, push for top 8-10. Based on whether he reckons we could still push on after that will determine if he renews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Cup runs in there too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Don't think the contract length means anything either way in this case. He could be gone tomorrow is Ashley fucks up, or for a decade more if he does the right thing and Rafa keeps enjoying the "project". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ashley will fuck this up massively. Guaranteed. I think Rafa will leave during the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ashley will fuck this up massively. Guaranteed. I think Rafa will leave during the summer. I think we should have a ban on these posts until the start of June. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Would not be surprised one bit if Pardew ended up back here at some point under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 fucking hell man lads, howay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ashley will f*** this up massively. Guaranteed. I think Rafa will leave during the summer. I think we should have a ban on these posts until the start of June. Tbf if pushed to one extreme or the other, I think both those outcomes are more likely than the alternatives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ashley will f*** this up massively. Guaranteed. I think Rafa will leave during the summer. I think we should have a ban on these posts until the start of June. Tbf if pushed to one extreme or the other, I think both those outcomes are more likely than the alternatives I'm not saying it's not likely, I'm just staying wilfully deluded as long as I can. Always worked before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Interesting speculation regarding a potential takeover in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/25/newcastle-premier-league-mike-ashley-rafael-benitez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Interesting speculation regarding a potential takeover in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/apr/25/newcastle-premier-league-mike-ashley-rafael-benitez Mackem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 It's not even a case of SPEND LOADS OF MONEY NOW YA TIGHT b******! It's more simply 'be sensible, back the manager, don't lie'. What do you class as sensible spending for this summer ? However much Rafa thinks he needs to spend in order to achieve whatever he wants to achieve next season, give or take a few million either way. There isn't a specific number. I don't really like the whole "oh, we need to spend X amount," because that isn't how it works. I've argued before that I don't think we need to spend absolutely gazillions in order to create a side that will stay up. We need a minimum of four significant upgrades in defense, midfield and attack to ensure we've got a team capable of surviving, imo. Fuck knows how much they're gonna cost; it'll be whatever the selling clubs are prepared to sell for. Only one problem with that logic - you are assuming that Rafa will be happy just to survive in the premier next season. I doubt it. He's not daft, he'll know we are a couple of years away from having a team he can be proud to call his, but he's going to want a first team that can at least compete with the big boys. Mid table will probably be a realistic ambition for next season but he'll be wanting to hit the European spots by the season after IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ashley will f*** this up massively. Guaranteed. I think Rafa will leave during the summer. I think we should have a ban on these posts until the start of June. Tbf if pushed to one extreme or the other, I think both those outcomes are more likely than the alternatives I'm not saying it's not likely, I'm just staying wilfully deluded as long as I can. Always worked before Good for you. May I ask how that has worked out since 2007 I'm really happy for the supporters and the city. Still think this will not end well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 He's so going to fuck it up again isn't he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Time will tell, and having said that, I'm not gonna think too much about it for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I can not understand how people can start to worry already. Sure, he will 100% fuck everything up down the line, but just dont wast energy on worrying on things you can not control, and enjoy the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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