Sima Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Who's Michael Martin and is he credible? A complete cunt and no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Well Staveley was definately at the game. The rest was always just wild speculation Exactly, at the end of the day, no one has a clue, what we do know is he's officially put the club up for sale, and whats the club sold before Christmas. That is great news, not really sure why people what to see this as a negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 "Never felt appreciated" Like setting fire to a house and being miffed afterwards as to why the owners think you're a massive cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The for sale sign is up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnMag Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Lets just hope that there aint Venkys part 2 lurking behind corner. Hopefully Ashley sells club to owner who wants to win something more than championship title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The most Newcastle thing ever will be when Robert Fucking Kraft buys us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 A formal announcement of what has unofficially been known for some considerable time is of some interest - but perhaps more significantly, invalidates all recent claims of takeover bids and ongoing interest. Quite simply were Amanda Staveley, those mysterious Chinese bidders or anyone else to have had a genuine interest in the club, this statement wouldn't exist. That it does is confirmation that an awful lot of speculation masquerading as knowledge has been foisted on Newcastle supporters in recent weeks. Or there is a buyer and hes pushing this out there officially to speed up the sale/force it through to worry the potential buyer of a rival (s). Imagine trying to ignite a bidding war between a legitimate buyer and hypothetical buyers who need an installment plan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Interesting views on here and RTG about this news, and in many ways polar opposites. Some RTG suggestions even proposed that Ashley should sell Newcastle and buy Sunderland, or that they wish that Short would buy Newcastle. These comments made me think about how each owner is perceived by each club and what they have done from a business perspective. (Yes, we know that Short buying Newcastle was intended to assume that Short would have the same effect on Newcastle finances as he did on Sunderland). But actually, might the crazy scenario of the owners swapping clubs actually give the other club what it needs? This board sees Ashley as someone who has taken the club backwards, in its ability to compete in the premier league, and he is hated by fans. RTG look at Ashley and see that he has put the club on a firm financial footing making NUFC financially self-sufficient. A few comments that they would like him to be their owner. Whereas, RTG see Short as the guy who destroyed Sunderland by chasing PL rainbows and building insurmountable levels of debt, while we might look at Short as the type of owner that would invest/spend money where there a good possibility of a return on that investment. I think he has been a good owner for them, but has been misled and let down by his board, managers and players. (His mistake, is not cutting off the money flow earlier) So what if…. What if Ashley did sell Newcastle, and buy Sunderland. Ashely would immediately put them on a financial plan to stability, and he would take a relegation (or two) to ensure that they are financially viable. Never going to reach for the moon in terms of league placement but would invest enough to get into the Premier League and would be happy with lower-mid Prem League position. And while Shorts failing has not been about the money spent (because he has spent and spent), but what it was spent on and by who. With Short’s willingness to invest, wouldn’t he love to have the recruitment plan and manager from Newcastle that’s able to spend on the right players and have a positive cash flow? Not that I want this to happen or believe that it would happen, but there is a certain symmetry that each club might just have what the other club needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 What. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 We all know Short is useless though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I think an offer is on the table that is way below what Ashley wants, so he is using his vast business experience (and a 14 year old lawyer) to flush out the rest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Both clubs would continue to be fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 A formal announcement of what has unofficially been known for some considerable time is of some interest - but perhaps more significantly, invalidates all recent claims of takeover bids and ongoing interest. Quite simply were Amanda Staveley, those mysterious Chinese bidders or anyone else to have had a genuine interest in the club, this statement wouldn't exist. That it does is confirmation that an awful lot of speculation masquerading as knowledge has been foisted on Newcastle supporters in recent weeks. Or there is a buyer and hes pushing this out there officially to speed up the sale/force it through to worry the potential buyer of a rival (s). Imagine trying to ignite a bidding war between a legitimate buyer and hypothetical buyers who need an installment plan True Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 IMO the whole thing is a charade. No doubt in my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I see that fans of other clubs are out telling us that Ashley isn't that bad and what we should be thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Interesting views on here and RTG about this news, and in many ways polar opposites. Some RTG suggestions even proposed that Ashley should sell Newcastle and buy Sunderland, or that they wish that Short would buy Newcastle. These comments made me think about how each owner is perceived by each club and what they have done from a business perspective. (Yes, we know that Short buying Newcastle was intended to assume that Short would have the same effect on Newcastle finances as he did on Sunderland). But actually, might the crazy scenario of the owners swapping clubs actually give the other club what it needs? This board sees Ashley as someone who has taken the club backwards, in its ability to compete in the premier league, and he is hated by fans. RTG look at Ashley and see that he has put the club on a firm financial footing making NUFC financially self-sufficient. A few comments that they would like him to be their owner. Whereas, RTG see Short as the guy who destroyed Sunderland by chasing PL rainbows and building insurmountable levels of debt, while we might look at Short as the type of owner that would invest/spend money where there a good possibility of a return on that investment. I think he has been a good owner for them, but has been misled and let down by his board, managers and players. (His mistake, is not cutting off the money flow earlier) So what if…. What if Ashley did sell Newcastle, and buy Sunderland. Ashely would immediately put them on a financial plan to stability, and he would take a relegation (or two) to ensure that they are financially viable. Never going to reach for the moon in terms of league placement but would invest enough to get into the Premier League and would be happy with lower-mid Prem League position. And while Shorts failing has not been about the money spent (because he has spent and spent), but what it was spent on and by who. With Short’s willingness to invest, wouldn’t he love to have the recruitment plan and manager from Newcastle that’s able to spend on the right players and have a positive cash flow? Not that I want this to happen or believe that it would happen, but there is a certain symmetry that each club might just have what the other club needs. Exiled from Posting tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Glad we’re finally getting new owners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Interesting views on here and RTG about this news, and in many ways polar opposites. Some RTG suggestions even proposed that Ashley should sell Newcastle and buy Sunderland, or that they wish that Short would buy Newcastle. These comments made me think about how each owner is perceived by each club and what they have done from a business perspective. (Yes, we know that Short buying Newcastle was intended to assume that Short would have the same effect on Newcastle finances as he did on Sunderland). But actually, might the crazy scenario of the owners swapping clubs actually give the other club what it needs? This board sees Ashley as someone who has taken the club backwards, in its ability to compete in the premier league, and he is hated by fans. RTG look at Ashley and see that he has put the club on a firm financial footing making NUFC financially self-sufficient. A few comments that they would like him to be their owner. Whereas, RTG see Short as the guy who destroyed Sunderland by chasing PL rainbows and building insurmountable levels of debt, while we might look at Short as the type of owner that would invest/spend money where there a good possibility of a return on that investment. I think he has been a good owner for them, but has been misled and let down by his board, managers and players. (His mistake, is not cutting off the money flow earlier) So what if…. What if Ashley did sell Newcastle, and buy Sunderland. Ashely would immediately put them on a financial plan to stability, and he would take a relegation (or two) to ensure that they are financially viable. Never going to reach for the moon in terms of league placement but would invest enough to get into the Premier League and would be happy with lower-mid Prem League position. And while Shorts failing has not been about the money spent (because he has spent and spent), but what it was spent on and by who. With Short’s willingness to invest, wouldn’t he love to have the recruitment plan and manager from Newcastle that’s able to spend on the right players and have a positive cash flow? Not that I want this to happen or believe that it would happen, but there is a certain symmetry that each club might just have what the other club needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Ashley loves the attention and he loves taking the p*ss out of desperate Newcastle fans. The club is in the best place it's been for yonks, it's a brilliant time to destabilise it again. Obviously him f***ing off would be fantastic but there's absolutely nothing to suggest he suddenly wants to give the fans genuine hope by selling up. Unless there's something concrete then I'm treating all of this as nonsense tbh. No surprise that it's come out via Sky again btw. I agree. As I said earlier - how is this any different to when he put the club up for sale last time? Just an excuse not to spend in Jan imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 So one minute it's "he doesnt give a shit what people think" and next he somehow needs an excuse not to spend money. Not really buying that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Ashley loves the attention and he loves taking the p*ss out of desperate Newcastle fans. The club is in the best place it's been for yonks, it's a brilliant time to destabilise it again. Obviously him f***ing off would be fantastic but there's absolutely nothing to suggest he suddenly wants to give the fans genuine hope by selling up. Unless there's something concrete then I'm treating all of this as nonsense tbh. No surprise that it's come out via Sky again btw. I agree. As I said earlier - how is this any different to when he put the club up for sale last time? Just an excuse not to spend in Jan imo. I completely agree that it is no different to last time and I think nothing is or will happen. However it's got nowt to do with January spending. He couldn't care less about our opinions or reaction to him not spending money since he has done the same thing in pretty much every transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Playbook - Ashley. Nothing will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 https://twitter.com/AshleyOutdotcom/status/920022536896774144 Just like the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Hoser Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 https://twitter.com/tfMichael1892/status/919997894844968961 Look at him, look at him.. ARAB MONEY!!! Praise Allah! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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