Ginola Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Bramble's always been the better defender. 5 good games for Taylor doesn't change that. No he hasn't. Taylor is far from a brilliant defender, but he's better than Bramble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Bramble's had 4 good seasons since leaving us. People just don't want to acknowledge it. Quite sad, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Bramble 'overall' had quite a few good seasons with us as well, his problem is the amount of costly mistakes he makes, great player, shit for brains. would prefer Taylor simply because he's more reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 They are both shit on their days..Freaking time bombs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Physically Skittle is the perfect defender, technically he's quite good but mentally he's a cabbage which has held him back all his career. If only he had the brain even thick shit Taylor has he'd be at a champions league club. Taylor has far more intelligence than him, which is incredible to say but true, technically they are about the same, physically Taylor loses in every area. Would rather have Taylor though who wins on bonus comedy value as Brambles blunders often leads to goals conceded whereas Taylors usually end up in lots of WTF's and s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Bramble is fucking terrible & always has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Despite seeming to make a point of mentioning 'long' or 'deep' balls beginning the moves for our goals, an article markedly lacking in venom/bitterness from Louise Taylor for once: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/sep/24/newcastle-united-blackburn-rovers-premier-league Alan Pardew had cited Demba Ba's recent observance of Ramadan as a reason for his rather low-key start to life on Tyneside but, fortified by a pre-match meal, the Senegal striker delighted in showing his new public precisely what he is capable of. Ba's hat-trick not only extended Newcastle United's impressive unbeaten beginning to the season but sent a Blackburn Rovers side that had arrived seeking a sixth straight win at St James' Park back across the Pennines with their manager, Steve Kean, once again facing questions about his job security. "Our control of the game was pleasing and the speed of some of our passing and movement was very, very good," enthused Pardew, Newcastle's manager. "We've got real quality in a strong side and we're going to win more than we lose. My forwards are rising to the challenge of proving that I don't need to sign another striker and this team's starting to excite me." Ba's opening goal, and first for Newcastle, derived from Fabricio Coloccini's perceptive long, cross-field pass, which was met by the impressive Leon Best wide on the left. Best supplied a decent cross and Ba turned Scott Dann adroitly before directing a subtly curving, perfectly weighted strike into the top corner. Another long ball, from Danny Simpson this time, prefaced his second, Ba heading beyond Paul Robinson after Steven Taylor had nodded Simpson's lob back across goal. Junior Hoilett was proving Blackburn's most dangerous attacker, using his deployment wide on the right to fully emphasise why Ryan Taylor is not a natural left-back. Hoilett reduced the deficit before half-time, meeting Martin Olsson's cross from the left with an assured first touch, allowing the ball to bounce and sending a ferocious half-volley beyond a helpless Tim Krul. With Ba completing his treble shortly after the break it proved a false dawn for Kean. Home goal number three began with Cheik Tioté's deep, angled delivery into the area. Connecting with the ball at the far post, Ba screwed a looping header goalwards and, although Best got in front of Dann, that effort had crossed the line before Best could apply a final touch. Things got even worse for Blackburn when Olsson was sent off after receiving his second yellow card after cynically hauling Yohan Cabaye down. Although Cabaye's customarily incisive style had been cramped courtesy of some tight man-marking by Jason Lowe, the freedom consequently granted to other members of Pardew's midfield, most notably Gabriel Obertan, ensured Kean's pre-match game plan backfired. Ba, meanwhile, departed to a 74th-minute ovation when the warmly welcomed Hatem Ben Arfa replaced him. Making his first appearance at St James' after a year spent recovering from a badly broken leg, Ben Arfa sparked in the hole, his improvisation and invention suggesting a currently fourth-placed Newcastle may just enjoy an infinitely better campaign than widely forecast. Of course, probably worth bearing in mind, she probably forecast us to finish 21st. And we'd have been lucky to be so high, too. Another somewhat positive article from her. Strange times.... she's been more or less positive in her articles on us since Pardew came in, think she's taken a fancy to him only logical explanation for the series of positive articles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Physically Skittle is the perfect defender, technically he's quite good but mentally he's a cabbage which has held him back all his career. If only he had the brain even thick s*** Taylor has he'd be at a champions league club. Taylor has far more intelligence than him, which is incredible to say but true, technically they are about the same, physically Taylor loses in every area. Would rather have Taylor though who wins on bonus comedy value as Brambles blunders often leads to goals conceded whereas Taylors usually end up in lots of WTF's and s Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 She's probably been for a spin on the Pardy Hot-Rod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Bramble is f***ing terrible & always has been. At times last season he was Sunderland's best player man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Think Bramble's better than Taylor, like. But Colo pisses all over everything they've got at the back. No disgrace. You really should stop embarrassing yourself with comments like that! Bramble's always been the better defender. 5 good games for Taylor doesn't change that. Ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Great game as i've said before, but some really sloppy moments from us, apart from that i was impressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 There was alot of room for improvement with the sloppy passing, the lack of marking for their goal after the give away, the lack of the killer touch infront of goal. BUT the movement was good, especially the top two, the ball was on the deck, we threatened both left and right and we won easy without leaving third gear. For me the highlight was the move when Benny cam on and swopped passes with Cabaye and Jonas before almost setting up Best - more please. But credit to Best and Ba who were a handful throughout against a decent centre back pairing. Credit also to the ever improving Oba. Also thought Raylor was decent apart from THE mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Bramble's had 4 good seasons since leaving us. People just don't want to acknowledge it. Quite sad, really. He can't even get a game for the mackems man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 The above post tells you everything you need to know. People just like to pretend to know what they're on about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 if bramble hadnt been sold to wigan, and so hadnt scored the equaliser at st james in oct 08, all other things being equal, we'd not have gone down. so maybe its true that selling bramble relegated us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 That relegation has proved to be the best thing that ever happened to us. Well, sort of. Looking at it long term we're in a better situation now than we were when that season ended even if we had stayed up by a cats pube Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 The above post tells you everything you need to know. People just like to pretend to know what they're on about. They'll put that on your gravestone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 agreed, similar to losing the play offs all those years ago. someone said above though, that losing bramble was a contributing factor to relegation, and took a bit of stick for it, i was just adding another angle. obviously too simple to link one goal in one game, of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 There's truth in that. Whilst a relegation can never be a good thing, it certainly purged the club of a lot of the malingering shite that had began to engulf it. It signalled the end of the easy-money atmosphere in the dressing room. Since day one of the Championship we've seen some great graft by Newcastle sides that was all to absent in years gone by. We may not be world beaters but nobody could ever call us a soft touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 That relegation has proved to be the best thing that ever happened to us. Well, sort of. Looking at it long term we're in a better situation now than we were when that season ended even if we had stayed up by a cats pube There's truth in that. Whilst a relegation can never be a good thing, it certainly purged the club of a lot of the malingering s**** that had began to engulf it. It signalled the end of the easy-money atmosphere in the dressing room. Since day one of the Championship we've seen some great graft by Newcastle sides that was all to absent in years gone by. We may not be world beaters but nobody could ever call us a soft touch. Indeed, looking back at it now, relegation was the kick up the arse we needed.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 There's truth in that. Whilst a relegation can never be a good thing, it certainly purged the club of a lot of the malingering shite that had began to engulf it. It signalled the end of the easy-money atmosphere in the dressing room. Since day one of the Championship we've seen some great graft by Newcastle sides that was all to absent in years gone by. We may not be world beaters but nobody could ever call us a soft touch. Relegation wasn't a 'good thing' but 'good things' did come out of it, if that makes sense. It wiped the clock back to 0000 and allowed us to rebuild and move forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I still shudder to think what would have happened if we hadn't come straight back up though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I still shudder to think what would have happened if we hadn't come straight back up though. I know it's a bit cliché but the words, "New Leeds" comes to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 The season we went down we were awful and many of the overpaid shite would have stayed and played poorly for a lot of money. The season in the Championship was fun and got the fans back on side, it was nice not having your weekend ruined and I began to like our squad again. Of all the transfer decisions Ashley/Llambias have made since we were promoted there's very few that haven't proved correct, although it's too early to tell. Right now selling Carroll for £35m looks smart as fuck, getting rid of the inexperiened but very likeable Hughton for a more experiend man in Pardew is also starting to look like a good decision, but we could just as easy lose the next 5 and the whole argument will turn on it's head. I still don't buy into this "Ashley will sell our best players at the drop of a hat" argument just yet. We've sold Milner & Carroll for daft money, got rid of Barton because by all accounts he was becoming a problem in the dressing room (if the rumours are true about the Leeds game) and sold Nolan for footballing reasons. If he does sell half the team in January, then obviously that is a cunt's trick and people will rightfully be furious. I guess it's easier to understand their decisions when things are rosy on the pitch, but when things are going wrong the ammunition is there for everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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