Manchester City 3 - 1 Newcastle United - 19/11/11 - post-match reaction from p41

[ponsaelius]

"But Newcastle can hold their heads up - they've had a great start. I know people will go 'it's their first test'; it isn't their first test, because Newcastle - no disrespect - are not a great team so every game they play is a test, in my opinion."

 

:lol:

 

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11096/7317824/City-streets-ahead

 

Fucking horrible thick drunkard twat.

[alexf]

"But Newcastle can hold their heads up - they've had a great start. I know people will go 'it's their first test'; it isn't their first test, because Newcastle - no disrespect - are not a great team so every game they play is a test, in my opinion."

 

:lol:

 

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11096/7317824/City-streets-ahead

 

f***ing horrible thick drunkard t***.

 

The stuff he says about man city resting players and that is bullshit. Of the players they brought on only Silva is a guaranteed starter normally. Whereas we were missing 3 first team regulars.

[Big Geordie]

Not good about the bother - hopefully whoever chucked the firework is caught and dealt with. Surely the club should know who was at the match and sitting where. Afterall, isn't that the point of the 'membership'?

[Guest Benarfanufc10]

Gutted to taste the first defeat in yonks but overall happy with the way we had a go.

 

At times it looked as though we were playing footballs equivalent of the Harlem Globetrotters (guess we were tbf).

 

Hard to have too much of a moan given most ran there legs off.

 

However.... We need to resolve this Jonas problem as his attacking game had all but disappeared of late. If Pardew doesn't trust Rtaylor to defend then we need to start Santon.

 

Sammi did ok, a tad careless at times but overall a good taste for him.

 

Can't see Ben Arfa and Ba working and for me, I would stick with Ba and Best and find a place for Ben Arfa on the wing.

 

With regard to Ben Arfa, seemed to keep it simpler than previous and showed some nice moves. Seemed to lose possession quite a bit at first and annoying that he was constantly standing around when possession was lost. Whether we are a team that can afford to have a defensive passenger I'm not sure?

 

Look forward to Man U hopefully with Tiote and Best back and wing options.

  i propose give ben arfa  arsenal or mu  he is a virus

[cubaricho]

I don't think anyone really expected to get anything from this match but I'm glad we went there and after the first 20 minutes or so had a go at them.  We definitely created some chances which was nice and it was mostly individual errors that cost us today.

 

On to next weekend.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

Gutted to taste the first defeat in yonks but overall happy with the way we had a go.

 

At times it looked as though we were playing footballs equivalent of the Harlem Globetrotters (guess we were tbf).

 

Hard to have too much of a moan given most ran there legs off.

 

However.... We need to resolve this Jonas problem as his attacking game had all but disappeared of late. If Pardew doesn't trust Rtaylor to defend then we need to start Santon.

 

Sammi did ok, a tad careless at times but overall a good taste for him.

 

Can't see Ben Arfa and Ba working and for me, I would stick with Ba and Best and find a place for Ben Arfa on the wing.

 

With regard to Ben Arfa, seemed to keep it simpler than previous and showed some nice moves. Seemed to lose possession quite a bit at first and annoying that he was constantly standing around when possession was lost. Whether we are a team that can afford to have a defensive passenger I'm not sure?

 

Look forward to Man U hopefully with Tiote and Best back and wing options.

  i propose give ben arfa  arsenal or mu  he is a virus

 

I propose hitting Christmas Tree on the head with a spanner.

[Ronaldo]

They're as bad as each other. I agree that Ben Arfa needs to be out wide, though,

[ponsaelius]

Wide right with Best and Ba up top sounds good. He'll cause problems drifting in and will be able to link up better with two front players to work with.

[Frazzle]

Why are so many people convinced Ben Arfa and Ba won't work?  They linked up alright today didn't they when they had the chance?  Don't understand it.

[Dave]

Why are so many people convinced Ben Arfa and Ba won't work?  They linked up alright today didn't they when they had the chance?  Don't understand it.

 

 

Sheep.

[Ronaldo]

For one thing, I don't think Ba holds the ball up well enough to bring HBA into play through that route.

 

HBA would work best with Best. But since we can't drop Ba, RW is the only place for him imo. Let him do what he basically did today from a wider area.

[ponsaelius]

Why are so many people convinced Ben Arfa and Ba won't work?  They linked up alright today didn't they when they had the chance?  Don't understand it.

 

I'm not convinced it wont work at all, btw, I think it can. But I agree with Ronaldo in that our best team at the moment has Best, Ba and Ben Arfa in it.

[Frazzle]

Ba was alright holding it up today after the first twenty mins.  Plus we shouldn't be relying on hoofed balls upfront this season especially at home, no reason why we can't work the ball forward.

 

I'd rather stick Ben Arfa in his preferred position, which is also his best IMO.

[Yorkie]

For one thing, I don't think Ba holds the ball up well enough to bring HBA into play through that route.

 

HBA would work best with Best. But since we can't drop Ba, RW is the only place for him imo. Let him do what he basically did today from a wider area.

 

This is completely my way of thinking. Ba's miles better at the support play than he is at playing the centre-forward.

 

I would play Best when he's fit, especially away from home, but you can't drop Ba. If Ben Arfa's being stubborn about playing in midfield then i think it's just tough - he'll have to settle for the bench, cos B+B have been our best partnership so far this season. There's a place for Hatem down the right, no doubt about it.

 

I'm happy for it to be tried and be proven wrong, but i can't see it happening.

[JH]

Think HBA on the right would take away most of the things he was good at today. As a stop-gap then yeah play him there, but not for the long term.

 

Ba and HBA looked really good at times today.

[Frazzle]

For one thing, I don't think Ba holds the ball up well enough to bring HBA into play through that route.

 

HBA would work best with Best. But since we can't drop Ba, RW is the only place for him imo. Let him do what he basically did today from a wider area.

 

This is completely my way of thinking. Ba's miles better at the support play than he is at playing the centre-forward.

 

I would play Best when he's fit, especially away from home, but you can't drop Ba. If Ben Arfa's being stubborn about playing in midfield then i think it's just tough - he'll have to settle for the bench, cos B+B have been our best partnership so far this season. There's a place for Hatem down the right, no doubt about it.

 

I'm happy for it to be tried and be proven wrong, but i can't see it happening.

 

Best and Ba has been our best partnership because they've played the most though and we haven't really seen Ba and Ben Arfa yet, except today, where they linked up well.

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

For one thing, I don't think Ba holds the ball up well enough to bring HBA into play through that route.

 

HBA would work best with Best. But since we can't drop Ba, RW is the only place for him imo. Let him do what he basically did today from a wider area.

 

This is completely my way of thinking. Ba's miles better at the support play than he is at playing the centre-forward.

 

I would play Best when he's fit, especially away from home, but you can't drop Ba. If Ben Arfa's being stubborn about playing in midfield then i think it's just tough - he'll have to settle for the bench, cos B+B have been our best partnership so far this season. There's a place for Hatem down the right, no doubt about it.

 

I'm happy for it to be tried and be proven wrong, but i can't see it happening.

 

I very  much doubt Ben Arfa is stubborn about playing wide. He was asking Pardew why Sammy was selected ahead of him to come on for Marveaux at Everton- he'll play anywhere. He wants to be on the pitch.

[Ronaldo]

For one thing, I don't think Ba holds the ball up well enough to bring HBA into play through that route.

 

HBA would work best with Best. But since we can't drop Ba, RW is the only place for him imo. Let him do what he basically did today from a wider area.

 

This is completely my way of thinking. Ba's miles better at the support play than he is at playing the centre-forward.

 

I would play Best when he's fit, especially away from home, but you can't drop Ba. If Ben Arfa's being stubborn about playing in midfield then i think it's just tough - he'll have to settle for the bench, cos B+B have been our best partnership so far this season. There's a place for Hatem down the right, no doubt about it.

 

I'm happy for it to be tried and be proven wrong, but i can't see it happening.

 

Best and Ba has been our best partnership because they've played the most though and we haven't really seen Ba and Ben Arfa yet, except today, where they linked up well.

 

They linked up well twice.

[Frazzle]

Ben Arfa playing centrally helps Cabaye out more as well IMO, against Wigan we saw this and I reckon Cabaye will improve when Ben Arfa gets a run in the team.

[Ronaldo]

As mouth-watering as that is, I'd rather stick with the combination that got us to 3rd.

[Yorkie]

I know it was Man City, who are pretty mean, but i don't remember them linking up terribly well. There was the one chance in the first half where HBA found a good pass through - which was hugely encouraging granted.

 

Problem with my way of thinking is that i know what works and am hesitant to change. Good thing i'm not a manager cos i don't got the balls.

[Frazzle]

For one thing, I don't think Ba holds the ball up well enough to bring HBA into play through that route.

 

HBA would work best with Best. But since we can't drop Ba, RW is the only place for him imo. Let him do what he basically did today from a wider area.

 

This is completely my way of thinking. Ba's miles better at the support play than he is at playing the centre-forward.

 

I would play Best when he's fit, especially away from home, but you can't drop Ba. If Ben Arfa's being stubborn about playing in midfield then i think it's just tough - he'll have to settle for the bench, cos B+B have been our best partnership so far this season. There's a place for Hatem down the right, no doubt about it.

 

I'm happy for it to be tried and be proven wrong, but i can't see it happening.

 

Best and Ba has been our best partnership because they've played the most though and we haven't really seen Ba and Ben Arfa yet, except today, where they linked up well.

 

They linked up well twice.

For one thing, I don't think Ba holds the ball up well enough to bring HBA into play through that route.

 

HBA would work best with Best. But since we can't drop Ba, RW is the only place for him imo. Let him do what he basically did today from a wider area.

 

This is completely my way of thinking. Ba's miles better at the support play than he is at playing the centre-forward.

 

I would play Best when he's fit, especially away from home, but you can't drop Ba. If Ben Arfa's being stubborn about playing in midfield then i think it's just tough - he'll have to settle for the bench, cos B+B have been our best partnership so far this season. There's a place for Hatem down the right, no doubt about it.

 

I'm happy for it to be tried and be proven wrong, but i can't see it happening.

 

Best and Ba has been our best partnership because they've played the most though and we haven't really seen Ba and Ben Arfa yet, except today, where they linked up well.

 

They linked up well twice.

 

Against the best team in the league, not bad, especially considering 9 times out of 10 Ba would've finished his chance.  Best and Ba have both played well individually but they've hardly linked up in about ten games.  I'm not expecting one-twos into the box but I've hardly ever seen Best put Ba through or vice-versa, like Ba and HBA today.

[Frazzle]

As mouth-watering as that is, I'd rather stick with the combination that got us to 3rd.

 

Well its a pretty narrow minded way to look at things considering the winner against Wigan and the equaliser against Spurs came without Best and Ba together, as well as the Sunderland win, Arsenal draw etc.

[Mick]

For one thing, I don't think Ba holds the ball up well enough to bring HBA into play through that route.

 

HBA would work best with Best. But since we can't drop Ba, RW is the only place for him imo. Let him do what he basically did today from a wider area.

What is it with you and Best?

Ba was alright holding it up today after the first twenty mins.  Plus we shouldn't be relying on hoofed balls upfront this season especially at home, no reason why we can't work the ball forward.

 

I'd rather stick Ben Arfa in his preferred position, which is also his best IMO.

Agreed, Ben Arfa can play the wings but he'll rightly not stick to them and that would mean we'd lose our shape.

[Dave]

As mouth-watering as it is to bring Santon in, I'd rather stick with the defence that got us to 3rd.