El Prontonise Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, joeyt said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, joeyt said: Obviously just want to be like Sweden again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Michael Oliver with a pretty terrible decision giving Arsenal a red today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, joeyt said: Michael Oliver with a pretty terrible decision giving Arsenal a red today Have you seen the replay/close-up of it? He puts the studs down the back of his legs. I still don't think its a red, probably an orange at most, but the decision doesn't look as bad as I initially thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 All for that being a red. Intentionally played the man with his studs into the shin with no thought about playing the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, joeyt said: Michael Oliver with a pretty terrible decision giving Arsenal a red today Nah. I can see both sides of the argument. But absolutely no issue with that being a red. Players do that going for the ball and can get a red card because of where the studs are and a raking, stamping motion. Whether he means it or not. The ball is nowhere near and it’s clumsy as fuck if all he was trying to do was trip him. I saw some comments going on like it was the softest red of all time. Then I saw it and couldn’t understand what the problem was?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, Lush Vlad said: Nah. I can see both sides of the argument. But absolutely no issue with that being a red. Players do that going for the ball and can get a red card because of where the studs are and a raking, stamping motion. Whether he means it or not. The ball is nowhere near and it’s clumsy as fuck if all he was trying to do was trip him. I saw some comments going on like it was the softest red of all time. Then I saw it and couldn’t understand what the problem was?! because arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Had only saw one replay when I made that post and Twitter was suggesting it was because he was denying a goalscoring opportunity Hadn't seen the alternate angle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 That Everton lad got booked for doing a seagull celebration today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) I like Ian Wright, but think he’s wrong to go on like this. Wasn’t a terrible decision at all. Expecting refs to be unbiased when they can’t bring themselves as pundits to be unbiased. I understand a pundits favouritism towards a club will come in to play every now and then, but the reaction to this decision is baffling, and I hope people come out and at least give the ref credit for the decision not being as clear cut as has been made out. Edited January 25 by Rafalove Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) Seems to be an Arsenal thing. Keown is the same. You can tell an Arsenal fan up is down but they will swear blind that it's not if it involves their team. Nothing showed that more obvious than loads of their online contingent claiming the Havertz handball wasn't against Villa. So seeing that today doesn't shock me that they will see it as more of the "conspiracy against them". Edited January 25 by alexf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I feel like loads of people decided it was given as a professional foul and denying a goalscoring opportunity. When there is no way that would happen from that position on the pitch. And/or the first angle and the real time decision. Then with all the evidence, new angles and the fact it’s confirmed as serious foul play. People have just doubled down and can’t accept it. I don’t even think it’s particularly contentious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Diabolical decision in my opinion. Those who said it was a red, would you include Trippier's foul in the 3-3 game with Man City as a red? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 44 minutes ago, CPL said: Diabolical decision in my opinion. Those who said it was a red, would you include Trippier's foul in the 3-3 game with Man City as a red? Did he drag his studs down the City players leg then like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, alexf said: Seems to be an Arsenal thing. Keown is the same. You can tell an Arsenal fan up is down but they will swear blind that it's not if it involves their team. Nothing showed that more obvious than loads of their online contingent claiming the Havertz handball wasn't against Villa. So seeing that today doesn't shock me that they will see it as more of the "conspiracy against them". It's an Arteta thing. "The ball is too light." Just excuses and a desperate attempt to create a siege mentality that works with some of their fans (the online ones) and proper fans probably just look on thinking "WTF you on about mate". They need rid of Arteta if they wanna win things. He's done alreet, but he's ran his course there for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, alexf said: Seems to be an Arsenal thing. Keown is the same. You can tell an Arsenal fan up is down but they will swear blind that it's not if it involves their team. Nothing showed that more obvious than loads of their online contingent claiming the Havertz handball wasn't against Villa. So seeing that today doesn't shock me that they will see it as more of the "conspiracy against them". Arsenal fans still hate Ryan Shawcross and Stoke City for that accident which broke Ramsey’s leg in a complete fluke of a challenge. It actually wasn’t even foul, he was just incredibly unlucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I thought it was harsh at first but he's miles away from the ball. Doesn't really matter if it's clumsy or intentional, red is the right decision, although I think players get off with that more often than not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 100% a red for me. I normally defend hard and physical tackles but this is clearly late and just above/ankle height when contact is made. Nowhere near the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 38 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Did he drag his studs down the City players leg then like? It's made to look worse if you slow it down like with any late tackle. You can tell he's gone to tactically foul him rather than trying to be malicious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFCDoog Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 It's never a red card like we talk about Arsenal pundit bias and Arteta etc, and I csnt stand him either, but people in here saying its definitely a red card etc are being clouded by their dislike of Arsenal and everything that comes with them. If it was an Ipswich player sent off we'd all be saying what a joke it is. He catches him slightly above the ankle but it's just a poorly timed foul, you see them fouls in every single game and it's a yellow card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, CPL said: It's made to look worse if you slow it down like with any late tackle. You can tell he's gone to tactically foul him rather than trying to be malicious. A tactical foul is malice to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, CPL said: It's made to look worse if you slow it down like with any late tackle. You can tell he's gone to tactically foul him rather than trying to be malicious. I agree, i don't think it's malicious, yes he's trying to trip him, but in doing so he's caught him in a bad way. For me it's a red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NUFCDoog said: It's never a red card like we talk about Arsenal pundit bias and Arteta etc, and I csnt stand him either, but people in here saying its definitely a red card etc are being clouded by their dislike of Arsenal and everything that comes with them. If it was an Ipswich player sent off we'd all be saying what a joke it is. He catches him slightly above the ankle but it's just a poorly timed foul, you see them fouls in every single game and it's a yellow card. It’s not a poorly timed tackle though. He had no chance of getting to the ball, he’s gone to do him, and he’s only ever going to do him from behind as well. The fact that it prevented a counter attack as well just compounds it. Edited January 25 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 It’s really funny. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch; fundamental institutional cheaters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Crazy decision imo. Unless he's got the ability to view life in slow motion, I can't believe he's informed enough to make that call. It happens in a microsecond and it's not even that bad anyway. There's no intent, he just sticks his leg out to stop the breakaway and catches him. Looks like another case of a ref making call in the hope VAR will correct it if it's wrong, but they won't because it's not wrong enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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