Froggy Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 14 hours ago, Famous Nick said: dont get how Burnley offside was offside. these type of goals never taken away if Sky6 club scores them. never. like his hand/arm is offside. but he couldnt score with that anyway. Man Utd already has more points due to VAR than should have. I hope clubs will bring this up next meeting outside Sky6. Fulham manager was also very vocal, well they just had Man United, Chelsea games in a week, very questionable things happened vs Fulham both games, surprise surprise. and the horrible ref we had vs Liverpool. Konate push with a yellow already, Gravenberch scissor tackle, Van Dijk elbow etc., extra time until Liverpool wins. when Arsenal, Liverpool, Man United will score from same tight offside it will be explained oh it was only his hand on offside position so goal stands. What part of the Burnley player there is behind Dalot? His foot is ahead, his knees ahead, his heads ahead. Look at the lines on the ground man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 5 minutes ago, Froggy said: What part of the Burnley player there is behind Dalot? His foot is ahead, his knees ahead, his heads ahead. Look at the lines on the ground man. Based on that image, his whole body is behind the Dalot bar one small part of his arm. Its an absolutely ridiculous decision, and even you should be seeing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 10 minutes ago, 54 said: Based on that image, his whole body is behind the Dalot bar one small part of his arm. Its an absolutely ridiculous decision, and even you should be seeing that. Honestly, are you winding me up? Look at the lines on the ground and then move your way upwards. There's no way you think that the feet, knee etc. of the Burnley player are behind Dalot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 1 minute ago, Froggy said: Honestly, are you winding me up? Look at the lines on the ground and then move your way upwards. There's no way you think that the feet, knee etc. of the Burnley player are behind Dalot. The lines are drawn from the defending player not the attacker? So the only bit offside is the tiniest part of his arm above the elbow. To be fair before the cgi image appeared. From the live footage he did look slightly offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 Just now, alexf said: The lines are drawn from the defending player not the attacker? So the only bit offside is the tiniest part of his arm above the elbow. To be fair before the cgi image appeared. From the live footage he did look slightly offside. I know the offsides came down to the bit above the elbow and it's marginal, but to say there's no part of the Burnley player that is in front of Dalot is baffling when it's right there in front of you. It doesn't matter where the lines are drawn from, you can use them to determine where the body parts are. Also, gentle reminder that this was an automated offside. Technology that uses 10,000 data points on a players body to determine if it was offside. Still we have people arguing it's a bad decision and shouting corruption, simply because it's a "cartel" club. Proper embarrassing stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 14 hours ago, The Prophet said: He was raging yesterday like, and who can blame him? Finally a manager just comes out and calls it for what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 Robert Jones as well. This is why 'go and look at the monitor = change the decision' needs to end. Michael Oliver is the only time I can recall a ref sticking with their decision and IIRC it was his decision that was wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Robert Jones as well. This is why 'go and look at the monitor = change the decision' needs to end. Michael Oliver is the only time I can recall a ref sticking with their decision and IIRC it was his decision that was wrong. Yeah . Jones is the ref, hes watching the same clip over and over. Its his decision, VAR is only a tool to help him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 brilliant, sure that will cheer them up For as long as there's a human element using VAR this is always going to happen Get rid of it all right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 41 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Aye well that makes everything all right then... He'll be back in the PL next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 Come on Marco, cheer up - it’s been acknowledged on social media! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 I'm sorry but Var getting things wrong is borderline criminal. They over turned a correct decision FFS. How is it possible to implement something so badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 (edited) Why isn't Rob Jones being punished? VAR recommended a review, it didn't cancel the goal out. Jones did Edited August 31, 2025 by Fak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 36 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Yeah . Jones is the ref, hes watching the same clip over and over. Its his decision, VAR is only a tool to help him. But in reality they almost always overturn their own decisions because they are scared to go against VAR. The more important point here is that they don't even get to see some of their poor decisions because the VAR official turns a blind eye to offences committed by cartel defenders in the penalty area, such as tugging shirts or holding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 15 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I'm sorry but Var getting things wrong is borderline criminal. They over turned a correct decision FFS. How is it possible to implement something so badly. Corruption Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 Just now, Theregulars said: Corruption I used to bat these theories away thinking it would be too damaging for the brand, but the more it occurs then harder it becomes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 (edited) I don't think VAR is the issue per se. In England the sheer and utter incompetence of our referees is making VAR appear terrible. After all VAR is just video replays, but our refs and their arrogance that they know best, is killing what VAR should be for. I'm in the camp VAR is a good thing, but I'm also in the camp it should scrapped if these utter bellends continue to misuse it like they are. They use it to find ways to prevent goals, not correct obvious errors. And, as we're now seeing, to protect the scummy six when and where they can. Edited August 31, 2025 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boey_Jarton Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 The refs have no incentive to stick with their original decision as the VAR officials take the flak if it's wrong. The whole looking a the screen is a performative charade to give the illusion that the ref is in control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 It used to be the feet that had to be on/off, you know the only bit that can gain an advantage. The ancients knew many things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 22 minutes ago, Fak said: Why isn't Rob Jones being punished? VAR recommended a review, it didn't cancel the goal out. Jones did VAR in the Fulham case at least, shouldn't have been recommending a review. There was nothing 'clear and obvious' about that incident, which is only when VAR is supposed to intervene. Once called to the monitor, they are almost telling the ref, hes got it wrong. I'll admit though, more refs should have more courage to go against the VAR review and stick with their decision, or none decision, in this case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 I am fkn sick of Howard Webb - watch him be on the next TV show and brush off the Fulham call It’s unacceptable - VAR should be 100% accurate I must have watched 1000 Rugby Union matches and have never seen the TMO/ref make a mistake using technology Makes my blood boil when they can’t get it right in football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 31, 2025 Share Posted August 31, 2025 3 hours ago, Mikky said: I am fkn sick of Howard Webb - watch him be on the next TV show and brush off the Fulham call It’s unacceptable - VAR should be 100% accurate I must have watched 1000 Rugby Union matches and have never seen the TMO/ref make a mistake using technology Makes my blood boil when they can’t get it right in football its because of the VAR mindset. "can we find any reason to dissallow that goal?" should really be a time limit. otherwise its not clear and obvious and the match goes on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 Remember that little known / never enforced rule that was used to chalk off Eze's free kick against Chel$ea? Something about opposing players being at least 1m away from the wall? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 2 minutes ago, TK-421 said: Remember that little known / never enforced rule that was used to chalk off Eze's free kick against Chel$ea? Something about opposing players being at least 1m away from the wall? Nah it was fine I think. That's just a perspective trick from that shot. The wall was clear and unimpeded. That said it would be hilarious if it was chalked off so it should have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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