Mattoon Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I think he's a great talent with untapped potential, but don't get me wrong I think he should take blame for some of his performances but equally we should be looking at circumstances beyond his control that are stunting his effectiveness in our team. He just personifies the most frustrating facts that make up NUFC right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I don't care anymore honestly, he's never going to amount to anything at this club or neither will anyone else while Ashley is the owner and Pardew is the manager. Hurts to say it but the whole team is just pointless, its the same with Moyes at Man Yoo those of their support who think anything will change with Moyes in charge are simply deluding themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Hatem Ben Starta > Hatem Benched Arfa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I don't care anymore honestly, he's never going to amount to anything at this club or neither will anyone else while Ashley is the owner and Pardew is the manager. Hurts to say it but the whole team is just pointless, its the same with Moyes at Man Yoo those of their support who think anything will change with Moyes in charge are simply deluding themselves. We can only hope that the latter changes while the former is still here, as you say everything else just seems fruitless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 His attitude might be in question at times but imagine what a decent coach could do with this player. Unfortunately we don't have any at the club at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I am a massive Ben Arfa fan and would start him every week regardless. I also think our coaching is awful. But - hasn't the inability to unlock his undoubted talent been a major stumbling block wherever HBA has been? The fact he hasn't reached his potential is the reason he is playing for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Hatem Ben Starta > Hatem Benched Arfa Results this season say different Nah but anyway, I hope him coming off early against Chelsea was because the game was lost and Pardew was saving him for Spurs. I'd hate if he was back on the bench because of his performance. He was always going to struggle against that Chelsea team, they were too strong and I'm pretty sure like most of our team he spent the majority of the game deep in his own half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 His attitude might be in question at times but imagine what a decent coach could do with this player. Unfortunately we don't have any at the club at the moment. Don't get me wrong, I am a massive Ben Arfa fan and would start him every week regardless. I also think our coaching is awful. But - hasn't the inability to unlock his undoubted talent been a major stumbling block wherever HBA has been? The fact he hasn't reached his potential is the reason he is playing for us. Yup, think his lazy attitude in his younger years has stopped him from becoming a world class player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Just looking at Ben Arfa's previous managers at his other clubs & national team, none of these have got the best out of him which is a shame as he has the technical ability. Lyon (2004 - 2008) his managers were Paul Le Guen, Gerard Houlier & Alain Perrin Marseille (2008 - 2010) his managers were Eric Gerets & Didier Deschamps Newcastle (2010 - present) - Alan Pardew France (2007 - Present) - his managers were Raymond Domenech, Laurent Blanc & Didier Deschamps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 It's like when you have someone really brilliant in your 5 a-side team, everyone else just waits for them to do something. Basically what happens to me so I just shoot or dribble ( nah I'm average) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Dirty Don calling him Fatem: http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/don-hutchison-hatem-ben-arfa-6694582 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 He was out in Genting Casino last night, not that this is news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Or is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 4-5lbs overweight, sounds like he just needs a big dump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Comfort eating to dull the pain. Poor guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Dirty Don calling him Fatem: http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/don-hutchison-hatem-ben-arfa-6694582 I stopped reading at "Hatem Ben Arfa is capable of reaching the same standard as Eden Hazard" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Ben Arfa has mental issues. That's his problem since the begining. He got, gets the attributes to reach any standard but he just can't do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Great players like Hazard have no discernible weaknesses and if they do, they work on them and turn them into strengths. I love watching Hatem but you can't compare his ability to Hazard's. Different leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I hate to say this, as one who absolutely loves watching Hatem play for us - I just personally don't see it ever working out for him. It would have to be a massive change in his life or best (for us) manager, who knows how to get on with him and get him back looking in shape and playing top football. I hope I'm wrong (pray even) and I hope he does work out for us, and I hope its under a manager who sees that this once in a lifetime type talent is under contract at Newcastle United and sees how to set him up for success and turns him into the consistent, brilliant, and match-winning player that has the ability to tear defenses into shreds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I wouldn't even mind if he just tore a defence to shreds once every four matches. I wouldn't drop him every time he doesn't, though. Still aghast at the fact the player we saw at the start of the season has had the time he's had without having the injury problems of previous years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Need to get this guy sleeping with a personal trainer. Best thing that ever happened to my level of fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Need to get this guy sleeping with a personal trainer. Best thing that ever happened to my level of fitness. (nearly spit my actual cup of coffee at the screen) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hope Hatem tears them apart tonight if he's up for it. Unfortunately I'm not too confident of that. Plus he's up against Rose, who is probably faster than Hatem, so he may have a tough time getting the better of him. If he's even selected that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Need to get this guy sleeping with a personal trainer. Best thing that ever happened to my level of fitness. Worst thing that ever happened to mine, I couldn't walk for a week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Dirty Don calling him Fatem: http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/don-hutchison-hatem-ben-arfa-6694582 I stopped reading at "Hatem Ben Arfa is capable of reaching the same standard as Eden Hazard" what's wrong with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Dirty Don calling him Fatem: http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/don-hutchison-hatem-ben-arfa-6694582 I stopped reading at "Hatem Ben Arfa is capable of reaching the same standard as Eden Hazard" what's wrong with that? The fact that he's now 27 years old, should be enough to prove my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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