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Mole_Toonfan

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Not what i mean.... playing like a kid in school yard when you are a professional is not a good thing.

 

Professional's are supposed to have things like decision making and tactical discipline, it is a weakness of Hatem tbh that he's not a very mature footballer.

 

Don't get me wrong he's great but the fact he plays like a kid in a playground is one of the reasons he's so frustrating and joyful in equal measure and why he plays for us and not a CL club.

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littlelunchbox

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Not what i mean.... playing like a kid in school yard when you are a professional is not a good thing.

 

Professional's are supposed to have things like decision making and tactical discipline, it is a weakness of Hatem tbh that he's not a very mature footballer.

 

Don't get me wrong he's great but the fact he plays like a kid in a playground is one of the reasons he's so frustrating and joyful in equal measure and why he plays for us and not a CL club.

 

:thup:

 

He's found his level to be fair.

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Tiresias

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I know what you mean, but his decision making isn't all that awful and I think he's worked hard on his tactical discipline. With an extended run free of injury I still maintain he is an upgrade on Nasri who is playing for an apparently 'top' team but has a worse attitude and some poorer decision making and less ability imo.

 

In terms of maturity? Him dragging Shola away from a morecambe player says everything about who is mature in our squad

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littlelunchbox

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I know what you mean, but his decision making isn't all that awful and I think he's worked hard on his tactical discipline. With an extended run free of injury I still maintain he is an upgrade on Nasri who is playing for an apparently 'top' team but has a worse attitude and some poorer decision making and less ability imo.

 

In terms of maturity? Him dragging Shola away from a morecambe player says everything about who is mature in our squad

 

I think he means football maturity, as in knowing and striking the balance of when to be selfish and when to be selfless with the ball.

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Elliottman

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Newcastle United must learn to accept Hatem Ben Arfa for the unpredictable “maverick” he is – says Sylvain Marveaux.

 

There is no changing him, his compatriot adds.

 

Ben Arfa is the Magpies’ most creative attacking source, alongside Yohan Cabaye.

 

He proved as much with a late, typically-individualistic winner against Fulham at St James’ Park on Saturday.

 

Alan Pardew was quick to praise the Frenchman after the match, but qualified his assessment of Ben Arfa’s performance by suggesting the player remains prone to making incorrect decisions in possession.

 

Marveaux, however, believes Ben Arfa must be accepted for what he is – a cavalier of a footballer unlikely to be moulded into a roundhead, and determined to retain in his game the unbridled enthusiasm of his youth.

 

“Yeah, he plays to his qualities,” said Marveaux.

 

“When he comes onto the pitch, for him, football is not just about taking the ball and passing it.

 

“He wants to dribble, he wants to enjoy, you know. He wants to play like he was playing when he was with his friends when he was young.

 

“That’s how he sees football, so you cannot change him. That’s him.”

 

Reflecting on Ben Arfa’s strike against the Cottagers, Marveaux added: “I mean, you know, Hatem, you expect him to do that kind of thing, so I’m not surprised.

 

“Sometimes, maybe we expect too much of him, you know, to score goals. We expect him to create something. But he tries, he tries, and I’m happy for him because he deserves it.”

 

The current international break leaves Newcastle without a fixture until the trip to Aston Villa on Saturday week.

 

And Marveaux says that the time will be spent readying themselves to take on Paul Lambert’s side.

 

“It’s always bad to have two weeks off just after a bad loss,” he said. “But (having won) now I think we can just work and enjoy our week, and work and prepare for the next game.”

 

Meanwhile, Pardew is cautiously optimistic about taking a “good squad in a lot better health” to Villa Park a week on Saturday.

 

Newcastle have started the Premier League season indifferently and under-manned.

 

Defeat at Manchester City, a listless home draw against West Ham and toiling to bypass Morecambe in the Capital One Cup were compounded by United’s failure to strengthen their squad before the transfer window closed on Monday.

 

But Pardew says victory over Fulham at St James’ Park last Saturday has restored the Magpies’ “health”.

 

And with Steven Taylor’s suspension served and Mike Williamson and Gabriel Obertan set to return from injury, the Toon boss is more upbeat about the post-international break trip to Villa Park. “I think Gabby will come back to us, and Willo will be fit,” he said. “As long as we don’t pick up any knocks in training, we should have a good squad going to Villa.

 

“We’re in a lot better health with the result (against Fulham).”

 

The Villa game will be the first of the season in which Pardew has all four senior centre-backs available for selection. He seems certain to stick with captain Fabricio Coloccini and Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa against Paul Lambert’s men, and – all being well – at home to Hull City a week later.

 

But Taylor and Williamson seem likely to get a run-out four days after the Tigers come to Tyneside, when United play host to Leeds United in the third round of the Capital One Cup

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The College Dropout

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Not what i mean.... playing like a kid in school yard when you are a professional is not a good thing.

 

Professional's are supposed to have things like decision making and tactical discipline, it is a weakness of Hatem tbh that he's not a very mature footballer.

 

Don't get me wrong he's great but the fact he plays like a kid in a playground is one of the reasons he's so frustrating and joyful in equal measure and why he plays for us and not a CL club.

 

 

Very true. If I said this people would moan and complain.

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AyeDubbleYoo

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Not what i mean.... playing like a kid in school yard when you are a professional is not a good thing.

 

Professional's are supposed to have things like decision making and tactical discipline, it is a weakness of Hatem tbh that he's not a very mature footballer.

 

Don't get me wrong he's great but the fact he plays like a kid in a playground is one of the reasons he's so frustrating and joyful in equal measure and why he plays for us and not a CL club.

 

Very true. If I said this people would moan and complain.

 

I don't know how true this is TBH. It's not like he only plays for himself, doing loads of backheels and tricks and giving the ball away all the time. He just dribbles a bit too much, that's about it. And it's partly because he believes he can make something happen and partly because of the lack of good options around him.

 

This thing about him being maverick and not a team player etc is often exaggerated IMO.

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