Wullie Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 If you can't get the best out of a player like Papiss Cisse then you're doing something seriously wrong tbh. Give him chances, he will take them. Not once have we even tried the 4-3-3 that had him scoring a goal a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Can we change the thread title too 'Cisse; so good he can score with his ass'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 If you can't get the best out of a player like Papiss Cisse then you're doing something seriously wrong tbh. Give him chances, he will take them. Exactly, Perch's through ball was inches away from getting to him and I am confident he would have buried it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazza06 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 If you can't get the best out of a player like Papiss Cisse then you're doing something seriously wrong tbh. Give him chances, he will take them. Not once have we even tried the 4-3-3 that had him scoring a goal a game. Exactly. Play 4-4-2 and you will get more goals out of Ba, play 4-3-3 and you will get more goals out of Cisse. There doesn't seem to be much inbetween which is our problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 If you can't get the best out of a player like Papiss Cisse then you're doing something seriously wrong tbh. Give him chances, he will take them. Not once have we even tried the 4-3-3 that had him scoring a goal a game. Exactly. Play 4-4-2 and you will get more goals out of Ba, play 4-3-3 and you will get more goals out of Cisse. There doesn't seem to be much inbetween which is our problem. Not sure I agree there. Interchangeable positions in a 4-3-3 would be part of my "solution". Stick either Ba or Cisse on the left of the 3 for too long and they will: a) not score as many goals ( / possibly become dissatisfied) b) burn out much quicker There's something to be said for continuity, but I do think fluidity and fungibilty in-game addresses this and gives us more unpredictability - which is more difficult to defend against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 If you can't get the best out of a player like Papiss Cisse then you're doing something seriously wrong tbh. Give him chances, he will take them. Not once have we even tried the 4-3-3 that had him scoring a goal a game. Exactly. Play 4-4-2 and you will get more goals out of Ba, play 4-3-3 and you will get more goals out of Cisse. There doesn't seem to be much inbetween which is our problem. Not sure I agree there. Interchangeable positions in a 4-3-3 would be part of my "solution". Stick either Ba or Cisse on the left of the 3 for too long and they will: a) not score as many goals ( / possibly become dissatisfied) b) burn out much quicker There's something to be said for continuity, but I do think fluidity and fungibilty in-game addresses this and gives us more unpredictability - which is more difficult to defend against. it can't be too hard surely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Someone mentioned earlier in a different thread or post that we could do with playing our first choice against a weaker Europa league side and just go for the jugular quick and easy. Think it would do a Cisse/Ba a load of good with playing as a partnership and just dominating and trashing a squad for the mental psyche. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Someone mentioned earlier in a different thread or post that we could do with playing our first choice against a weaker Europa league side and just go for the jugular quick and easy. Think it would do a Cisse/Ba a load of good with playing as a partnership and just dominating and trashing a squad for the mental psyche. Be good for Maritimo at home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 He needs to bit pressing the line and making those runs. Ok some are offside, but thats this game. Too many hopefull balls thrown his way this season and crucially, very little support in the follow up. He has been coming far too deep and wide this season compared to last. Thats a formation thing IMO (and service clearly) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Players Taking The Mickey In Training Papiss Cisse finally found the net in the Premier League, courtesy of his back against West Brom last weekend. His Newcastle team-mates have been trying to replicate that strike in training. Alan Pardew says the lads have been ‘taking the mickey‘ out of Cisse, and trying to score with a similar deflection to the one which took the ball past Ben Foster. The gaffer said: “The guys have been taking the mickey out of him (Cisse) all week. But I still think it is a great thing that the ball struck him and went in like that. “Cheick (Tiote) has been laughing at him all week, trying to hit him and deflect the ball into the goal. Everyone’s been doing it. “If anything, I think it probably deepens his resolve to get a proper goal. But I really don’t care how they go in. They can do it again in a game for all I care.” Cisse will be hoping to add to his tally, with top scorer Demba Ba a doubt for tomorrow’s game at Liverpool. Great team spirit among the camp. It’s great to know the lads are sharing a joke and lifting Cisse together. He’s an important player and a ‘proper’ goal tomorrow could kick-start his season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I wonder if they'd let him take a penalty again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 they shouldn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Depends on the score / time i suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 If we're 3-0 up and it's the last few minutes then sure why not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Players Taking The Mickey In Training Papiss Cisse finally found the net in the Premier League, courtesy of his back against West Brom last weekend. His Newcastle team-mates have been trying to replicate that strike in training. Alan Pardew says the lads have been ‘taking the mickey‘ out of Cisse, and trying to score with a similar deflection to the one which took the ball past Ben Foster. The gaffer said: “The guys have been taking the mickey out of him (Cisse) all week. But I still think it is a great thing that the ball struck him and went in like that. “Cheick (Tiote) has been laughing at him all week, trying to hit him and deflect the ball into the goal. Everyone’s been doing it. “If anything, I think it probably deepens his resolve to get a proper goal. But I really don’t care how they go in. They can do it again in a game for all I care.” . Mad fucker :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Flat out bullying to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 You laugh now but it will become the new tactic much like the floated corner to Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Fancy him to score today. Superb striker despite the doubters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 You laugh now but it will become the new tactic much like the floated corner to Williamson. actually laughed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 His hold up play was abysmal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Pitiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Lack of service yes but...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Getting no chances to score when in the middle and otherwise being played out wide. He's never getting back into form until these are fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 His hold up play was abysmal. We definitely lost a step when Ba left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 His hold up play was abysmal. Neither Ba or Cissé are good at holding the ball up. Shola is the only striker we've got who can hold it up. It's very frustrating when Krul kicks it long for Ba and Cissé as it invariably comes straight back at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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