DJ_NUFC Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 TT, have a word with yourself. Couldn't hit a barn door from 5 yards? We'd be relegated without him, and not have finished 5th last year without him hitting barn doors left, right and center. And your post is one of the worst I've read on this forum in a long time. Go sit in a fucking corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Wonga is a toilet of a company. They prey on the vulnerable. It's not on the same level as gambling/your regular high street bank. Having a moral objection to it doesn't make you a hypocrite unless you own and operate a pay day loan company yourself. Some of our fans need to get a grip tbh. This, would be nice for our fans to show some support for one of our most loyal players at least until we know all the details and the consequences. Most loyal players ? been here a season and a half, he had plenty of time to raise the issue with the club before he deal was sealed. I am not chuffed to see the Wonga logo on our shirts but they are hardly the biggest scum on earth, they offer a service for a price.. welcome to the real world! So you know he hasn't raised the issue before then? No of course not but would seem daft for it to get to this point and still be going on if he had already voiced his disapproval. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 TT, have a word with yourself. Couldn't hit a barn door from 5 yards? We'd be relegated without him, and not have finished 5th last year without him hitting barn doors left, right and center. And your post is one of the worst I've read on this forum in a long time. Go sit in a fucking corner. Go fuck yourself with your dads dildo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Awesome response, I must say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Its may not be as bad as gambling to us but surely if he is such a devoted Muslim to have an issue with wearing a Wonga sponsored shirt then he would/should also have a real issue towards gambling? Ultimately everybody has different thresholds, some will commit some sins yet refrain from others Just to make it clear both interest and gambling is forbidden in Islam, it's not a grey area BUT very clear cut Islam also endorses the subjugation of women, the Bible tells believers to kill non-believers. The fact is, modern religion depends on interpretation, so it's not up to us to dictate to Cisse which parts of Islam to hold dear. and where have I dictated anything to Cisse? Cisse is absolutely free to believe what he wants and practice what he wants BUT was just pointing out that both gambling and interest are forbidden in Islam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontenacity Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Wonga is a toilet of a company. They prey on the vulnerable. It's not on the same level as gambling/your regular high street bank. Having a moral objection to it doesn't make you a hypocrite unless you own and operate a pay day loan company yourself. Some of our fans need to get a grip tbh. This, would be nice for our fans to show some support for one of our most loyal players at least until we know all the details and the consequences. Most loyal players ? been here a season and a half, he had plenty of time to raise the issue with the club before he deal was sealed. I am not chuffed to see the Wonga logo on our shirts but they are hardly the biggest scum on earth, they offer a service for a price.. welcome to the real world! So you know he hasn't raised the issue before then? No of course not but would seem daft for it to get to this point and still be going on if he had already voiced his disapproval. Unless the club have failed to resolve the issue and so he's felt the need to go to the PFA? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 ALL banks have special accounts for Muslims, the gain no interest on savings, pay no interest on loans and I have no idea if they receive charges if the go overdrawn or not. Interest is charged on loans in effect, but it is done in a roundabout way (not sure on the details) so as not to technically contravene some religious laws. Clearly, there has to be some return in there otherwise no-one would offer the service! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Awesome response, I must say. Glad you can take it the way it was meant to be taken (weyhey) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontenacity Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Its may not be as bad as gambling to us but surely if he is such a devoted Muslim to have an issue with wearing a Wonga sponsored shirt then he would/should also have a real issue towards gambling? Ultimately everybody has different thresholds, some will commit some sins yet refrain from others Just to make it clear both interest and gambling is forbidden in Islam, it's not a grey area BUT very clear cut Islam also endorses the subjugation of women, the Bible tells believers to kill non-believers. The fact is, modern religion depends on interpretation, so it's not up to us to dictate to Cisse which parts of Islam to hold dear. and where have I dictated anything to Cisse? Cisse is absolutely free to believe what he wants and practice what he wants BUT was just pointing out that both gambling and interest are forbidden in Islam Some on here are calling him a hypocrite, and I'm just saying that no two people - religious or not- necessarily have to hold the same views. It's up to him whether he equates gambling and payday loans in severity or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Poor Cisse hasn't said a word and he's being crucified. That was Jesus, man. Navas? Nazareth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Wonga is a toilet of a company. They prey on the vulnerable. It's not on the same level as gambling/your regular high street bank. Having a moral objection to it doesn't make you a hypocrite unless you own and operate a pay day loan company yourself. Some of our fans need to get a grip tbh. This, would be nice for our fans to show some support for one of our most loyal players at least until we know all the details and the consequences. Most loyal players ? been here a season and a half, he had plenty of time to raise the issue with the club before he deal was sealed. I am not chuffed to see the Wonga logo on our shirts but they are hardly the biggest scum on earth, they offer a service for a price.. welcome to the real world! So you know he hasn't raised the issue before then? No of course not but would seem daft for it to get to this point and still be going on if he had already voiced his disapproval. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-face-wonga-deal-revolt-1370793 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontenacity Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Wonga is a toilet of a company. They prey on the vulnerable. It's not on the same level as gambling/your regular high street bank. Having a moral objection to it doesn't make you a hypocrite unless you own and operate a pay day loan company yourself. Some of our fans need to get a grip tbh. This, would be nice for our fans to show some support for one of our most loyal players at least until we know all the details and the consequences. Most loyal players ? been here a season and a half, he had plenty of time to raise the issue with the club before he deal was sealed. I am not chuffed to see the Wonga logo on our shirts but they are hardly the biggest scum on earth, they offer a service for a price.. welcome to the real world! So you know he hasn't raised the issue before then? No of course not but would seem daft for it to get to this point and still be going on if he had already voiced his disapproval. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-face-wonga-deal-revolt-1370793 Haha thanks Dave. Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 every 100 times Cisse is found offside next season the club add a letter from the Wonga sponsor to his shirt. That's a fair compromise. he'll be wearing the full sponsor by the end of September. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Wonga is a toilet of a company. They prey on the vulnerable. It's not on the same level as gambling/your regular high street bank. Having a moral objection to it doesn't make you a hypocrite unless you own and operate a pay day loan company yourself. Some of our fans need to get a grip tbh. This, would be nice for our fans to show some support for one of our most loyal players at least until we know all the details and the consequences. Most loyal players ? been here a season and a half, he had plenty of time to raise the issue with the club before he deal was sealed. I am not chuffed to see the Wonga logo on our shirts but they are hardly the biggest scum on earth, they offer a service for a price.. welcome to the real world! So you know he hasn't raised the issue before then? No of course not but would seem daft for it to get to this point and still be going on if he had already voiced his disapproval. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-face-wonga-deal-revolt-1370793 Speculation from a paper that all of our Muslim players could kick up a fuss not that they actually had. They name Tiote in there he has just pledged his future to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Erm where'd it go Dave ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 The vote is currently: Yes, Wonga is unethical and his beliefs should be respected 17 (33.3%) Not sure, Wonga aren't the best company but he should just get on with it 17 (33.3%) No, it's a load of nonsense and he's out of order 17 (33.3%) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Completely out of order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 there is no wrong answer here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 The vote is currently: Yes, Wonga is unethical and his beliefs should be respected 17 (33.3%) Not sure, Wonga aren't the best company but he should just get on with it 17 (33.3%) No, it's a load of nonsense and he's out of order 17 (33.3%) Hey journos, if I don't see 'opinion amongst fans* is divided' in tomorrow's rags then you're not doing it right. *a ludicrously small sample of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1366128.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Cheick+the+frustration The root of all evil... Cheick Tiote could have a problem with promoting "legal loan shark" Wonga http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-face-wonga-deal-revolt-1370793#ixzz2W10hfAcD That is actually the picture they used in the article along with the above caption. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I think he wants out and it's a convenient excuse. Same, Suarez 2.0 if you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1366128.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Cheick+the+frustration The root of all evil... Cheick Tiote could have a problem with promoting "legal loan shark" Wonga http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-face-wonga-deal-revolt-1370793#ixzz2W10hfAcD That is actually the picture they used in the article along with the above caption. :lol: and how wrong there were, seems Tiote is fine with it.. Looks like some papers picked a Toon Muslim player and speculated SHOCK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 and how wrong there were, seems Tiote is fine with it.. Looks like some papers picked a Toon Muslim player and speculated SHOCK Any quotes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 The vote is currently: Yes, Wonga is unethical and his beliefs should be respected 17 (33.3%) Not sure, Wonga aren't the best company but he should just get on with it 17 (33.3%) No, it's a load of nonsense and he's out of order 17 (33.3%) Where is the 0.1%? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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