jdckelly Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Villa are at least as big as them tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Aston Villa are far bigger than Sunderland ffs. It's Sunderland who should be grateful to have O'Neill tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 It was amazing how quickly the patented O'Neil bounce ended and Sunderland were back to playing unimaginative tosh again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 without getting into one of those debates I'd broadly put Villa and Sunderland into the same category of size of club (along with us Everton and Spurs) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Mackem at work trying to argue the point how Fraizer Campbell is a better player then Demba Ba.....after about 10 minutes of back and forth debating, he come's out with 'Well Steven Fletcher is better than Shola... and you dare try to argue otherwise'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 There's not much in club size between the mackems and Villa tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 There's not much in club size between the mackems and Villa tbh. This, all bias aside it's ridiculous to say that Villa are a 'far bigger club' than Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 There's not much in club size between the mackems and Villa tbh. This, all bias aside it's ridiculous to say that Villa are a 'far bigger club' than Sunderland. Champions and european cup winners since ive been watching football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Aye CP but that was nigh on 30 years ago. History, of course, is not irrelevant but when you start digging you can make a case for Preston, Wolves and Huddersfield all being "big clubs". Taking a snap shot of the last twenty years, Villa and Sunderland are on a par, with us just ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 There's not much in club size between the mackems and Villa tbh. This, all bias aside it's ridiculous to say that Villa are a 'far bigger club' than Sunderland. Champions and european cup winners since ive been watching football What has that got to do with anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Villa fill their ground for a start, they've been in the top six for a canny few years over the last 20 years. They've won the European Cup and the league as well. I don't think there's any debate to be had tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Villa fill their ground for a start, they've been in the top six for a canny few years over the last 20 years. They've won the European Cup and the league as well. I don't think there's any debate to be had tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Villa fill their ground for a start, they've been in the top six for a canny few years over the last 20 years. They've won the European Cup and the league as well. I don't think there's any debate to be had tbh. No they don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Villa filling their ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Aye CP but that was nigh on 30 years ago. History, of course, is not irrelevant but when you start digging you can make a case for Preston, Wolves and Huddersfield all being "big clubs". Taking a snap shot of the last twenty years, Villa and Sunderland are on a par, with us just ahead. while I understand your point, not sure I can agree. Villa have been an ever present in the prem,and played in europe while Sunderland have been relegated about 3 or4 times. so theres my case for the last 20 years. Going back to the 80s- champions and european cup winners vs a team that slipped into the 3rd division. Even in the early 70s before I can remember when Sunderland fluked the cup they were a poor second division side. They are a smaller club than Villa. IMO. Sunderland can maybe claim to be the biggest of the clubs from the teams that dont play European football. or at leat for 40 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Villa's overseas fan base seems far, far bigger than Sunderland's.. maybe even bigger than ours from my observations. The mackems are about as big as f***ing Bolton or Stoke in that sense - A dull club that nobody gives a f*** about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Villa are easily a bigger club than Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 The way I see it: 'Big' clubs - ManU, Arsenal, Liverpool Rich clubs - Man City, Chelsea Biggish clubs - Spurs, Us, Everton, Villa ...with the rest of the stable PL clubs being much of a muchness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 They're both cunty little clubs that can fuck off and disappear up their own arse for me like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 They're both cunty little clubs that can fuck off and disappear up their own arse for me like. well argued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Villa are easily a bigger club than Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Sunderland sold their best player to Villa for big money... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 They're both cunty little clubs that can f*** off and disappear up their own arse for me like. well argued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Aye CP but that was nigh on 30 years ago. History, of course, is not irrelevant but when you start digging you can make a case for Preston, Wolves and Huddersfield all being "big clubs". Taking a snap shot of the last twenty years, Villa and Sunderland are on a par, with us just ahead. In the past decade Villa have never been out the top flight and played in Europe a few times. Meanwhile Sunderland twice set the record for the PL's lowest points total and have achieved a best place finish of 10th (I think). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Aye CP but that was nigh on 30 years ago. History, of course, is not irrelevant but when you start digging you can make a case for Preston, Wolves and Huddersfield all being "big clubs". Taking a snap shot of the last twenty years, Villa and Sunderland are on a par, with us just ahead. In the past decade Villa have never been out the top flight and played in Europe a few times. Meanwhile Sunderland twice set the record for the PL's lowest points total and have achieved a best place finish of 10th (I think). Nobody is arguing that they aren't shite, they do have a good stadium, excellent facilities, a really good fanbase etc though. Villa are a more prestigious club without doubt, but I cannot really see how they have a much bigger standing in the modern game than Sunderland, unless something radical happens they're both decent Premiership clubs, nothing more nothing less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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