cp40 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 guess the most noteable thing from that statistic, is that it stood up to half a seasons fixtures- ie played everyone, and never repeated a fixture we won last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 So it only works if you ignore the relegated/promoted sides rather than substituting them? Disappointed, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 10 pionts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 was perch's performance last night enough to push him into contention for a start on sunday ? (i didn't see or hear the game, fortunatly i gather!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 was perch's performance last night enough to push him into contention for a start on sunday ? (i didn't see or hear the game, fortunatly i gather!) Not sure. He was solid, but we were away from home and already in the lead when he came on. I expect us to go back to 4-4-2 but I'm not sure who will partner Guthrie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 He did okay, but I would hope that we wouldn't have to play such a limited player at home in CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I wouldn't have too many gripes with us sticking with the 4-3-3 (or whatever you want to call it), providing at least one of Ba and Cisse enter the side. Would probably rather a 4-4-2 though. We can't fuck about with this game, considering the fixtures around us, it's a massive opportunity to create a bit of breathing space. ------------------------------------- Krul ------------------------------------- Raylor ------------ Williamson ---------- Coloccini ------------- Santon Ben Arfa ------------- Guthrie ---------- Abeid ------------------- Jonas ------------------------------ Ba ---------- Best ----------------------------- Subs: Elliot, Simpson, Ferguson, Perch, Obertan, Shola, Cisse (Cisse definitely won't be thrown straight in) That's what i would like to see. I know Simpson won't be dropped but i wish he would. We're at home and Raylor offers more going forward. Plus, he and Ben Arfa provided a nice balance down that wing at home to Blackburn. It's probably a touch harsh on Perch too, because he did his job well last night, but we're at home and Abeid's more of a footballer. We should be taking the game to Villa, and Perch's only real assets come when acting as a breakwater. Shola deserves dropping so Best keeps his place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I wouldn't have too many gripes with us sticking with the 4-3-3 (or whatever you want to call it), providing at least one of Ba and Cisse enter the side. Would probably rather a 4-4-2 though. We can't f*** about with this game, considering the fixtures around us, it's a massive opportunity to create a bit of breathing space. ------------------------------------- Krul ------------------------------------- Raylor ------------ Williamson ---------- Coloccini ------------- Santon Ben Arfa ------------- Guthrie ---------- Abeid ------------------- Jonas ------------------------------ Ba ---------- Best ----------------------------- Subs: Elliot, Simpson, Ferguson, Perch, Obertan, Shola, Cisse (Cisse definitely won't be thrown straight in) That's what i would like to see. I know Simpson won't be dropped but i wish he would. We're at home and Raylor offers more going forward. Plus, he and Ben Arfa provided a nice balance down that wing at home to Blackburn. It's probably a touch harsh on Perch too, because he did his job well last night, but we're at home and Abeid's more of a footballer. We should be taking the game to Villa, and Perch's only real assets come when acting as a breakwater. Shola deserves dropping so Best keeps his place. like that...but not sure who should partner guthrie at cm...abeid would be nice though! think perch should start on the bench and use him where needed later on. if cisse is just 75 % or so i´ll say....f*ck it give him a start....he will be so excited like the fans....+ he will team up with his senegal team mate Ba. its different with strikers...its not like we have to be gentle with them like with for example young defenders like santon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 and hopefully we will win this....its a huge game and if we can win it we will be battling for 4-5th place for at least the next 2-3 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Wouldn't mind Perch starting in the middle as long as it doesn't mean Raylor out wide instead of Ben Arfa. Yes Hatem was poor last night, but I hope Pardew realises that it was just one of those nights that was never going to be us at our best and we just needed to dig in and get the result. At home, with Ba and Cisse available, it is a completely different story. We need to have a go at Villa and that will not happen if Raylor is on the right hand side of midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I wouldn't have too many gripes with us sticking with the 4-3-3 (or whatever you want to call it), providing at least one of Ba and Cisse enter the side. Would probably rather a 4-4-2 though. We can't f*** about with this game, considering the fixtures around us, it's a massive opportunity to create a bit of breathing space. ------------------------------------- Krul ------------------------------------- Raylor ------------ Williamson ---------- Coloccini ------------- Santon Ben Arfa ------------- Guthrie ---------- Abeid ------------------- Jonas ------------------------------ Ba ---------- Best ----------------------------- Subs: Elliot, Simpson, Ferguson, Perch, Obertan, Shola, Cisse (Cisse definitely won't be thrown straight in) That's what i would like to see. I know Simpson won't be dropped but i wish he would. We're at home and Raylor offers more going forward. Plus, he and Ben Arfa provided a nice balance down that wing at home to Blackburn. It's probably a touch harsh on Perch too, because he did his job well last night, but we're at home and Abeid's more of a footballer. We should be taking the game to Villa, and Perch's only real assets come when acting as a breakwater. Shola deserves dropping so Best keeps his place. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Krul Simpson Williamson Coloccini Santon Ben Arfa Guthrie Abeid Jonas Ba Cissé Would absolutely love to see this. The movement of the Demba's could really bring out the best in HBA. Not holding my breath though. As expecting Raylor and or Obertan + Shola or Best to start Villa like to keep it very tight. If we go for the team above the Demba's goals could edge it for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I don't think Abeid is ready. Perch will start for protection reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Abeid looked ready in the game vs Blackburn. He is pretty well built for a young lad and looked confident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It'll be between Abeid and Perch for that second CM spot imo. Think Abeid will get the nod with Perch coming on for the last 15 minutes or so (depending on how the game is going). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Pardew please, NO SHOLA I think we will see the following side Krul Simpson - Williamson - Coloccini - Santon Raylor - Perch - Guthrie - Jonas Ba - Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Perch will 100% start Pards said he was his MOTM vs Blacknurn.. he won't drop Simpson & I think he MAY start Obertan ahead of Benny. Ba will start with Best, Best will make way for Cisse at some point. -------------------Krul Simo------Willi---------- Colo------Santon Ober------Guth ---------Perch ----Jonas ------------Ba -----------Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It'll be between Abeid and Perch for that second CM spot imo. Think Abeid will get the nod with Perch coming on for the last 15 minutes or so (depending on how the game is going). Why wouldn't he just pick Ryan Taylor again? Have I missed something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Think Raylor will continue to play in Cabaye's absence and Pardew will use the excuse we need him for set-pieces with Yohan out. Also think he'll go back to 4-4-2 and drop Ben Arfa so: Krul Simpson Williamson Coloccini Santon Taylor Guthrie Perch Jonas Best Ba I'd prefer to see Hatem and Abeid in for Taylor and Perch. I'd also probably throw Cisse in from the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It'll be between Abeid and Perch for that second CM spot imo. Think Abeid will get the nod with Perch coming on for the last 15 minutes or so (depending on how the game is going). Why wouldn't he just pick Ryan Taylor again? Have I missed something? Well we were being overrun in centre midfield last night and bringing on Perch reduced the threat a bit. Just don't see Raylor as an effective CM, he can do a decent job on the flanks but in the centre? Not sure. We need a defensive CM playing and don't think Raylor is that kind of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It'll be between Abeid and Perch for that second CM spot imo. Think Abeid will get the nod with Perch coming on for the last 15 minutes or so (depending on how the game is going). Why wouldn't he just pick Ryan Taylor again? Have I missed something? Wondering that myself. Think it's a near certainty he's in the 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It'll be between Abeid and Perch for that second CM spot imo. Think Abeid will get the nod with Perch coming on for the last 15 minutes or so (depending on how the game is going). Why wouldn't he just pick Ryan Taylor again? Have I missed something? Well we were being overrun in centre midfield last night and bringing on Perch reduced the threat a bit. Just don't see Raylor as an effective CM, he can do a decent job on the flanks but in the centre? Not sure. We need a defensive CM playing and don't think Raylor is that kind of player. Tend to agree, but would be surprised to see Abeid or Perch start in his place. Have to admit I wouldn't be horrified if Perchinho does get the nod, provided we went for a bit of flair out wide and had Demba/Papiss up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I know he wont start cisse, but he bloody well should. If its a fatigue issue, best looked shot after coming off against Blackburn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 For CM, Perch is a better option that Raylor IMO. Just hope neither of them play really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I'm hopeful he'll be more open to dropping Raylor because of Guthrie's ability to take set plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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