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Ronaldo

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Come off it, it's a lazy argument. Debuchy had a nightmare performance because of Mathieu Debuchy, not because of his nationality. He was lazy, disinterested, and clumsy, which has nothing to do with being French or playing in Ligue 1.

 

Nothing to do with having no experience of the Premier League? Give over, man.

 

Nothing personal, you seem like a very decent chap but you just don't understand the difference between English football and whatever laid-back crap you've been brought up on.

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Shearergol

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Simpson was shit. As a club we should be looking at better at both of these clowns.

 

This is like where Ameobi was out for months and became a better player each week, until he came back and people realised he was still Ameobi.

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jdckelly

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He's a crock of s***.

Simpson got loads of stick on here for his floaty crosses but at least he knew his limitations, could defend and quietly got on with the job.

 

No he couldn't.

he could do a lot better than debuchy could ever hope to do

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Deuce

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Come off it, it's a lazy argument. Debuchy had a nightmare performance because of Mathieu Debuchy, not because of his nationality. He was lazy, disinterested, and clumsy, which has nothing to do with being French or playing in Ligue 1.

 

Nothing to do with having no experience of the Premier League? Give over, man.

 

Nothing personal, you seem like a very decent chap but you just don't understand the difference between English football and whatever laid-back crap you've been brought up on.

 

Another weak as piss argument. You're full of them today.

 

Explain then, in all your infinite English wisdom, how MYM hasn't looked nearly as poor to that extent while playing fullback, despite having fewer PL games at fullback under his belt than Debuchy?

 

Or, why our seasoned English defender of 230+ appearances in English football looked even worse than our French RB until he was mercifully sent-off. Seems to me he doesn't understand English football either.

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Just a total liability, should have been another penalty he conceeded today.

 

Don't think Simpson gave away a single penalty or got a single red card in nearly 100 Premiership games.

 

Always loved Simpson like, cracking player.

 

Off the top of my head, Blackburn?

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Defensively Simpson was at least passable. On the evidence since he's joined us, Debuchy is a massive liability as soon as an attacker comes running at him. Simpson backed off too much, but Debuchy is the opposite: loves to have a late lunge when he's already beaten for speed and give away daft fouls (penalties). He could have cost us five goals single handedly tonight.

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Ronaldo

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Come off it, it's a lazy argument. Debuchy had a nightmare performance because of Mathieu Debuchy, not because of his nationality. He was lazy, disinterested, and clumsy, which has nothing to do with being French or playing in Ligue 1.

 

Nothing to do with having no experience of the Premier League? Give over, man.

 

Nothing personal, you seem like a very decent chap but you just don't understand the difference between English football and whatever laid-back crap you've been brought up on.

 

Another weak as piss argument. You're full of them today.

 

Explain then, in all your infinite English wisdom, how MYM hasn't looked nearly as poor to that extent while playing fullback, despite having fewer PL games under his belt than Debuchy?

 

Or, why our seasoned English defender of 230+ appearances in English football looked even worse than our French RB until he was mercifully sent-off. Seems to me he doesn't understand English football either.

 

MYM's just a far better defender than Debuchy, but he's also struggled with English football in his first 6 months. Certainly never looked anything like a captain of a title winning side in the middle of the defence. He has the time and the talent to adapt.

 

And Taylor looked worse than Debuchy before being sent off? Have a word. Debuchy's been a liability since January.

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I've yet to see anything to suggest that he's a better defender than Simpson like; he has a better first touch and passes the ball better, and in that sense is a better "footballer", but defensively Simpson didn't concern me half as much as this lad does. I don't think you can put it down to adjusting to the league either, it's mainly his positional awareness that is his weakest attribute (other than clumsiness), and that general instinct of where you should be standing isn't something that really changes across the top leagues... 

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All those who blindly defended him last season are pretty quiet. January to September and still not as good as the guy we let go on a free to a championship club.

 

When Cabaye leaves we've got to get rid of him, he went to shit at Lille when he left, he's bottled it at just the thought of him going. We need to sell them both back to a french club, could live with that especialy if we bring in trippier & McCarthy to replace them. We could do that with money to spare whatever the offers.

 

Should have got Clyne when we had the chance, this club jut won't look seriously enough at what is on offer on these shores.

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Deuce

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Come off it, it's a lazy argument. Debuchy had a nightmare performance because of Mathieu Debuchy, not because of his nationality. He was lazy, disinterested, and clumsy, which has nothing to do with being French or playing in Ligue 1.

 

Nothing to do with having no experience of the Premier League? Give over, man.

 

Nothing personal, you seem like a very decent chap but you just don't understand the difference between English football and whatever laid-back crap you've been brought up on.

 

Another weak as piss argument. You're full of them today.

 

Explain then, in all your infinite English wisdom, how MYM hasn't looked nearly as poor to that extent while playing fullback, despite having fewer PL games under his belt than Debuchy?

 

Or, why our seasoned English defender of 230+ appearances in English football looked even worse than our French RB until he was mercifully sent-off. Seems to me he doesn't understand English football either.

 

MYM's just a far better defender than Debuchy, but he's also struggled with English football in his first 6 months. Certainly never looked anything like a captain of a title winning side in the middle of the defence. He has the time and the talent to adapt.

 

And Taylor looked worse than Debuchy before being sent off? Have a word. Debuchy's been a liability since January.

 

MYM also has 110 fewer top-flight appearances than Debuchy. It takes young defenders from any league time to adjust. If he were Debuchy's age, he'd have slid into the squad with far more ease.

 

Taylor was abysmal. He's only saved by the fact that he wasn't allowed to play the second half and Debuchy was.

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Debuchy was as bad as I've seen from a NUFC player in a long time. 

 

Bollocks, like. There were worse performances towards the end of last season. One of them was even Debuchy himself.

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