Deuce Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Nationality has zero relevance to this discussion. I think you may have misunderstood what i was saying Nah man, it wasn't in response to your post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Worst full back performance I can ever remember from a NUFC player since I started following the club. Absolutely woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 One of the worst full-back performances in a Toon shirt I've seen. Bring back Simpson! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Nationality has zero relevance to this discussion. It does when it pertains to players with no concept nor experience of the toughest league in the world to defend in. He was in direct opposition with a Spaniard and a Frenchman. He was just poor. Nationality counts for zip. Are you trying to suggest the game isn't played at a totally different pace over here? Wake up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think Ryan Taylor had a complete mare against this lot when playing at left back either last season or the season before, gifting them one or two goals iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Nationality has zero relevance to this discussion. It does when it pertains to players with no concept nor experience of the toughest league in the world to defend in. He was in direct opposition with a Spaniard and a Frenchman. He was just poor. Nationality counts for zip. Are you trying to suggest the game isn't played at a totally different pace over here? Wake up. I don't think it had any bearing on tonight's performance no, he was just crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I still think he's a decent full back but he hasnt got the stomach for it at all and thats a massive problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Nationality has zero relevance to this discussion. It does when it pertains to players with no concept nor experience of the toughest league in the world to defend in. He was in direct opposition with a Spaniard and a Frenchman. He was just poor. Nationality counts for zip. Are you trying to suggest the game isn't played at a totally different pace over here? Wake up. I don't think it had any bearing on tonight's performance no, he was just crap. And has been defensively since we signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Come off it, it's a lazy argument. Debuchy had a nightmare performance because of Mathieu Debuchy, not because of his nationality. He was lazy, disinterested, and clumsy, which has nothing to do with being French or playing in Ligue 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Think we've had enough time to judge him now, and he doesn't look a good defender to me at all. He's positionally poor and wreckless, has the acceleration of a wheely bin, and doesn't offer half as much going forward as some would have you believe. When wingers run at him I expect him to give away a free kick or a penalty every single time; his tackling is clumsy as fuck and leaves a lot to be desired for an international full back... Probably the most disappointed I've been by a new signing, expected a lot more from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Come off it, it's a lazy argument. Debuchy had a nightmare performance because of Mathieu Debuchy, not because of his nationality. He was lazy, disinterested, and clumsy, which has nothing to do with being French or playing in Ligue 1. Nothing to do with having no experience of the Premier League? Give over, man. Nothing personal, you seem like a very decent chap but you just don't understand the difference between English football and whatever laid-back crap you've been brought up on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He's a crock of shit. Simpson got loads of stick on here for his floaty crosses but at least he knew his limitations, could defend and quietly got on with the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Simpson was shit. As a club we should be looking at better at both of these clowns. This is like where Ameobi was out for months and became a better player each week, until he came back and people realised he was still Ameobi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He's a crock of s***. Simpson got loads of stick on here for his floaty crosses but at least he knew his limitations, could defend and quietly got on with the job. No he couldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Just a total liability, should have been another penalty he conceeded today. Don't think Simpson gave away a single penalty or got a single red card in nearly 100 Premiership games. Always loved Simpson like, cracking player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 The worst thing for me is his temper/stupidity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He's a crock of s***. Simpson got loads of stick on here for his floaty crosses but at least he knew his limitations, could defend and quietly got on with the job. No he couldn't. he could do a lot better than debuchy could ever hope to do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Come off it, it's a lazy argument. Debuchy had a nightmare performance because of Mathieu Debuchy, not because of his nationality. He was lazy, disinterested, and clumsy, which has nothing to do with being French or playing in Ligue 1. Nothing to do with having no experience of the Premier League? Give over, man. Nothing personal, you seem like a very decent chap but you just don't understand the difference between English football and whatever laid-back crap you've been brought up on. Another weak as piss argument. You're full of them today. Explain then, in all your infinite English wisdom, how MYM hasn't looked nearly as poor to that extent while playing fullback, despite having fewer PL games at fullback under his belt than Debuchy? Or, why our seasoned English defender of 230+ appearances in English football looked even worse than our French RB until he was mercifully sent-off. Seems to me he doesn't understand English football either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Just a total liability, should have been another penalty he conceeded today. Don't think Simpson gave away a single penalty or got a single red card in nearly 100 Premiership games. Always loved Simpson like, cracking player. Off the top of my head, Blackburn? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Defensively Simpson was at least passable. On the evidence since he's joined us, Debuchy is a massive liability as soon as an attacker comes running at him. Simpson backed off too much, but Debuchy is the opposite: loves to have a late lunge when he's already beaten for speed and give away daft fouls (penalties). He could have cost us five goals single handedly tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Come off it, it's a lazy argument. Debuchy had a nightmare performance because of Mathieu Debuchy, not because of his nationality. He was lazy, disinterested, and clumsy, which has nothing to do with being French or playing in Ligue 1. Nothing to do with having no experience of the Premier League? Give over, man. Nothing personal, you seem like a very decent chap but you just don't understand the difference between English football and whatever laid-back crap you've been brought up on. Another weak as piss argument. You're full of them today. Explain then, in all your infinite English wisdom, how MYM hasn't looked nearly as poor to that extent while playing fullback, despite having fewer PL games under his belt than Debuchy? Or, why our seasoned English defender of 230+ appearances in English football looked even worse than our French RB until he was mercifully sent-off. Seems to me he doesn't understand English football either. MYM's just a far better defender than Debuchy, but he's also struggled with English football in his first 6 months. Certainly never looked anything like a captain of a title winning side in the middle of the defence. He has the time and the talent to adapt. And Taylor looked worse than Debuchy before being sent off? Have a word. Debuchy's been a liability since January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 This guy is awful. With his boyfriend absent he was even worse. Disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I've yet to see anything to suggest that he's a better defender than Simpson like; he has a better first touch and passes the ball better, and in that sense is a better "footballer", but defensively Simpson didn't concern me half as much as this lad does. I don't think you can put it down to adjusting to the league either, it's mainly his positional awareness that is his weakest attribute (other than clumsiness), and that general instinct of where you should be standing isn't something that really changes across the top leagues... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Debuchy was as bad as I've seen from a NUFC player in a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Recoba Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 The haircut and sleeve... The petulance... May as well be a woman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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