KaKa Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Parker had his moments in that position for sure, but I just didn't like his style. A lot of times it was quite laboured, and he slowed down play. He'd spin and spin and spin, or play it too safe too often with the backwards and sideways stuff. He wasn't consistently good at it. At Spurs he had Modric alongside him I believe, who took a lot of the responsibility of initiating play, and really was quite outstanding at it. Ultimately with this kind of player (Modric) also playing deep alongside him then it works quite well. At Fulham they have Sidwell with him, and that is going to be a disaster. While he was here, Emre couldn't stay fit enough to partner him regularly, and it all eventually started going down hill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Parker had his moments in that position for sure, but I just didn't like his style. A lot of times it was quite laboured, and he slowed down play. He'd spin and spin and spin, or play it too safe too often with the backwards and sideways stuff. He wasn't consistently good at it. At Spurs he had Modric alongside him I believe, who took a lot of the responsibility of initiating play, and really was quite outstanding at it. Ultimately with this kind of player (Modric) also playing deep alongside him then it works quite well. At Fulham they have Sidwell with him, and that is going to be a disaster. While he was here, Emre couldn't stay fit enough to partner him regularly, and it all eventually started going down hill. I don't think that really takes enough into account. For one, when Emre was fit, we had a manager that thought it would be a good idea to have Emre sitting deep and Parker being the attacking threat. As for the point about Modric, I agree, but it's all about the balance between players and how they compliment each other. Parker and Sidwell sounds terrible, but Parker and a player like Arteta or Modric or Alonso and it works. He's basically a wingman for a better midfielder, and he's decent at it, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Parker had his moments in that position for sure, but I just didn't like his style. A lot of times it was quite laboured, and he slowed down play. He'd spin and spin and spin, or play it too safe too often with the backwards and sideways stuff. He wasn't consistently good at it. At Spurs he had Modric alongside him I believe, who took a lot of the responsibility of initiating play, and really was quite outstanding at it. Ultimately with this kind of player (Modric) also playing deep alongside him then it works quite well. At Fulham they have Sidwell with him, and that is going to be a disaster. While he was here, Emre couldn't stay fit enough to partner him regularly, and it all eventually started going down hill. I don't think that really takes enough into account. For one, when Emre was fit, we had a manager that thought it would be a good idea to have Emre sitting deep and Parker being the attacking threat. As for the point about Modric, I agree, but it's all about the balance between players and how they compliment each other. Parker and Sidwell sounds terrible, but Parker and a player like Arteta or Modric or Alonso and it works. He's basically a wingman for a better midfielder, and he's decent at it, imo. Ah, yes! Forgot about that from Roeder Eeerily similar, in some ways, to Pardew's Tiote experiment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Parker had his moments in that position for sure, but I just didn't like his style. A lot of times it was quite laboured, and he slowed down play. He'd spin and spin and spin, or play it too safe too often with the backwards and sideways stuff. He wasn't consistently good at it. At Spurs he had Modric alongside him I believe, who took a lot of the responsibility of initiating play, and really was quite outstanding at it. Ultimately with this kind of player (Modric) also playing deep alongside him then it works quite well. At Fulham they have Sidwell with him, and that is going to be a disaster. While he was here, Emre couldn't stay fit enough to partner him regularly, and it all eventually started going down hill. Forget the style, he was effective. Parker did all the donkey work even if it meant running instead of using positional knowledge. one thing I liked about redknapp is that he keeps the game simple. Parker got the ball and passed it to one of the more creative and talented players. With Modric alongside he would just give him the ball. He was a regular in a side that beat Inter, AC, went to the CL QF, finished 4th, 5th, 4th. To say he wasn't consistently good is ludicrous. Claude Makelele would struggle alongside Steve Sidwell.. what's your point? Parker's good at doing the legwork for more talented players, winning the ball and laying it off. Things went wrong for him here when he was the man we looked to, to dictate play. He's not that guy. People thought Modric would struggle as a real CM in this division and I honestly believe having a work-horse like Parker really helped him (at least at the beginning) adjust to life at CM in the PL. Parker's reliance on stamina/running also means he's fallen off with age. Would Spurs have finished 4th, 5th, 4th with the current Anita? I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 True say bro. Some fair points. Just love Vurnon in our current setup, and fail to see how that dumpling guy can't recognise what he brings to the team. Don't want to come across as a Parker hater, because he's a top pro and gives his all. Was just trying to make the point that blood and thunder does not mean a better or more effective player necessarily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 funny as fuck that 5 year olds who change usernames think they know more about than people like me. Irony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 funny as fuck that 5 year olds who change usernames think they know more about than people like me. Irony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 From what I've seen so far this season, there's something about Anita that just gives us a certain level of calmness in midfield. The way he just keeps it simple with his passing and his uncomplicated play in DM sits just about right in the current system. There will be continuous questions as to his physical stature but as it stands, he's a starter for me. No doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 From what I've seen so far this season, there's something about Anita that just gives us a certain level of calmness in midfield. The way he just keeps it simple with his passing and his uncomplicated play in DM sits just about right in the current system. There will be continuous questions as to his physical stature but as it stands, he's a starter for me. No doubt. Agreed. At the moment he starts and he looks like he's growing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 From what I've seen so far this season, there's something about Anita that just gives us a certain level of calmness in midfield. The way he just keeps it simple with his passing and his uncomplicated play in DM sits just about right in the current system. There will be continuous questions as to his physical stature but as it stands, he's a starter for me. No doubt. It's a shame we hadn't signed him last season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Super Vurnon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 jesus that's a bad article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 comes across that way, in fact it comes across like he might not even play today imagine that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 it's literally inconceivable to a rational human being Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Pardew confirming once again that when things aren't going well he hasn't got the bottle to see things through. He really is the Bramble of football management, one thing doesn't go his way and his confidence just goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 If he changes anything from last week man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontenacity Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 comes across that way, in fact it comes across like he might not even play today imagine that My fear exactly- pretty certain he's done it before, talking up a player to console him when he's dropped (Marveaux, Elliot etc.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 was, along with remy, one of the few good things this afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Thought he played well today. Aware, quick responses. Good team player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Very consistant this lad. Does his job effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Best player for me, he will be rewarded with a place on the bench at Everton as we will need a tackle after today. Alan's diary entry 21/09/13. 5.30pm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 He's a midfielder but he stuck to his defensive duties more effectively than any of our back four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I've no doubt whatsoever he'll be dropped for Tiote at Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I've no doubt whatsoever he'll be dropped for Tiote at Everton. I'm unhappy to agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Was again very good today, hasn't had a bad game this season really. Which is why Tiote will line up in the next game. Along with his buddy Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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