merlin Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Kluivert was going downhill when he arrived here but at Ajax he was one of the most complete centre forwards I've seen. Marco van Basten is probably the other one who made scoring goals look like art. Agreed - Van Basten was terrific, that goal against England in the Euros(or was it the WC?) and the fantastic strike against Russia in the 88 Final showed just what he could do. If he hadn't picked up that bad ankle injury(which eventually ended his career) he would have been one of the all time great CFs...absolute class. Kluivert wasn't far behind him at his peak but went to seed badly and was a mere shadow of the player he had been when he arrived at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Kluivert's backheel goal against Palace was one of my favourite goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 nah, he was spent. Or at least had lost interest in being a professional. Lost interest so much he managed a far better goals-to-minutes ratio than those around him that season. He was still an absolute class act when he came here but Souness wanted Big Al holding the ball up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 nah, he was spent. Or at least had lost interest in being a professional. Lost interest so much he managed a far better goals-to-minutes ratio than those around him that season. He was still an absolute class act when he came here but Souness wanted Big Al holding the ball up. Well Shearer was on the sidelines for about three months that season and Bellamy had gone by January. But aye Paddy clearly wanted it badly even though he only managed about 6 goals in spite of all that. This post isn't a defence of Graeme Souness, by the by. But then this is me posting after someone took a dig at Shearer, so you probably knew that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Back on the subject of LDJ, I find it hard to swallow that we'll probably never get to see a frontline of LDJ spreading the ball with HBA and Remy running beyond him I'd love to see that, just once... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 nah, he was spent. Or at least had lost interest in being a professional. Lost interest so much he managed a far better goals-to-minutes ratio than those around him that season. He was still an absolute class act when he came here but Souness wanted Big Al holding the ball up. He was still outrageously talented but he looked out of shape, would stroll through games (even if he did frequently produce some beautiful touches when the ball eventually found him) and was constantly spotted either in town or in his club in Barcelona. He knew he was probably the most talented player on the pitch in any given game and pitched his level of professional effort accordingly. So yes, I'd say he'd lost interest. He couldn't even be arsed to stay fit. That his goals-per-game ratio was ok was testament to how awesome he naturally was, not to his attitude or effort, I'd say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Back on the subject of LDJ, I find it hard to swallow that we'll probably never get to see a frontline of LDJ spreading the ball with HBA and Remy running beyond him I'd love to see that, just once... Aye that would be class, LDJ is really the perfect striker for those two really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 nah, he was spent. Or at least had lost interest in being a professional. Lost interest so much he managed a far better goals-to-minutes ratio than those around him that season. He was still an absolute class act when he came here but Souness wanted Big Al holding the ball up. Well Shearer was on the sidelines for about three months that season and Bellamy had gone by January. But aye Paddy clearly wanted it badly even though he only managed about 6 goals in spite of all that. Shearer played 28 league games. Kluivert's tally of 13 in all competitions was respectable enough for his pitch time. Why am I even bothering, though. I went to these games, you didn't. Kluivert had a lot of class left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 nah, he was spent. Or at least had lost interest in being a professional. Lost interest so much he managed a far better goals-to-minutes ratio than those around him that season. He was still an absolute class act when he came here but Souness wanted Big Al holding the ball up. Well Shearer was on the sidelines for about three months that season and Bellamy had gone by January. But aye Paddy clearly wanted it badly even though he only managed about 6 goals in spite of all that. Shearer played 28 league games. Kluivert's tally of 13 in all competitions was respectable enough for his pitch time. Why am I even bothering, though. I went to these games, you didn't. Kluivert had a lot of class left. I never said Kluivert didn't have a lot of class left, like. He clearly did. My argument was that he definitely couldn't give a shit by the time he was here. The fact I didn't see all of the games is about as detrimental to my opinion as your agendas are to your opinions. We're both total shit, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Speak for yourself. I say it as I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Speak for yourself. I say it as I see it. Roy Walker would fucking love you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I do think under SBR Kluivert could've been a solid signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 On what I've seen of him so far - Do not buy! His shots are piss weak (on the rare occasion that he actually shoots). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I thinks he's looked good so far, he plays the ball well and is good at holding it up, he just can't shoot for shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Even more woeful than Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I'd probably pay maximum of about £2 million for him. He has a good first touch but that's literally all he's shown so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 He's a good footballer but not a goalscorer. We knew this when we signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I thinks he's looked good so far, he plays the ball well and is good at holding it up, he just can't shoot for s***. Good? A striker who can't shoot for shit? We can't afford to spend £8m of our very limited transfer budget on a striker who can't shoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Pretty much the only player I thought did well, but still fluffed his most important lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I thinks he's looked good so far, he plays the ball well and is good at holding it up, he just can't shoot for s***. Good? A striker who can't shoot for shit? We can't afford to spend £8m of our very limited transfer budget on a striker who can't shoot. You can't buy a goal scorer for £8m. Well Arsenal can, but there's only so many Remy's knocking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Looked terrible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 He's a good footballer but not a goalscorer. We knew this when we signed him. Yup, his link up play is decent and is obviously streets ahead of Cisse/Shola but he looks petrified when presented with a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Getting a bit worried about him now. Good at setting up chances but does not look like a goalscorer in this league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 There's no point in buying him unless we also have another striker lined up who can move, threaten the goal and create chances. Otherwise keep Cisse and spend the De Jong money on that player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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