TRon Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I'd rather we went off and took a chance finding a permanent spot for a player like Remy. Someone who is quite quick, good movement, can get on end of chances or fashion ones for himself. Luuk de Jong has looked ok but not a goal threat, we don't need someone who isn't a goal threat up front at all. Pardew's entire footballing philosophy at Newcastle has depended entirely on having a goal machine up front that he can depend on lock, stock and barrel without having to create chances across the rest of the team. A non scoring striker is simply a non starter, Cisse has been that at times and that put us in deep trouble... and at least he has missed plenty, de Jong hasn't even had a proper chance yet, he lacks even the positional sense to manage that. And he can't do the Leon Best role either because for a big bloke, even Shola wins a lot more in the air. Do I think he's better than he's shown so far? Probably. Would I take the chance on him? Absolutely no way, not at this stage. Agreed. Leon Best used to win loads in the air, more than Shola certainly. He was a very important member of the squad and shouldn't have been sold in my opinion. In that 5th place season he scored some important goals (QPR at home for example) and also helped create goals for Demba Ba as well (eg Stoke Away) by winning stuff In the air and generally putting himself about and having a go at teams. De Jong is likely to do similar to Jon Dahl Tomasson in a league like the Dutch league but never do enough in either the English or German leagues. He's neat and tidy, tries to link play but just doesn't look like a goalscorer and that is what we really need. Best might not have been the most technically accomplished player but he knew where the goal was. Not that we should be looking for another Leon Best anyway. By all means buy a target man who can link up play, but anyone who plays as part of our attack should be looking to score goals as well as assist, and De Jong has shown no interest. Spend some money and buy a real striker, we aren't short of cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Poor mans Cuntenkrands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Poor mans Cuntenkrands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Where has that come from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Most ineffective striker we've had since Chopra I reckon. So poor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Looks like munchingflapjack did us a favour last year when they stole him from our grasp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Still time for him to do something but looks like we've given up on him already. Or maybe he's just Sussed out early on the shit state the club is going to be in next year and doesn't want to be here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Sooner have Marlon Harewood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 The longer he goes without scoring, the cheaper he'd be to buy. Ashley will be conflicted as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 He's been fucking crap, but I am hoping that the ultimate personality that is Pardew can sort him out as he does have a great record with strikers you know. He said so himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Looks an intelligent player tbh, just not scoring which isn't a surprise with how we set up. I wouldn't be eager for us to spend what is likely to be our entire transfer budget on him but if we were a relatively normal team with a half decent manager I think he would be a good addition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 He'd be obsolete in any PL side not looking to launch it, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 His main problem is that he drops too deep to receive the ball. Someones got to tie him to a pole in the opposition's half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Looks an intelligent player tbh, just not scoring which isn't a surprise with how we set up. I wouldn't be eager for us to spend what is likely to be our entire transfer budget on him but if we were a relatively normal team with a half decent manager I think he would be a good addition. Pretty much what i'm thinking. He's not as bad as people are making out already. Think he'll look a lot better if he got a run in the side with Remy for his partner, think them two could link up well. Saying this though, building a strike partnership of loans who odds of signing are slim seems utterly pointless for the rest of the season Let's just stick with Cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 It's hard to judge him when the team as a whole is playing as badly as we are. We're not creating chances so he's not going to score, but if you look at the glimpses of decent linkup play and then adjust for the level of performance of the team as a whole, bearing in mind the leaden movement going on around him and the predictable service he's getting, you could argue he's doing pretty well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 He isn't, though, He's doing pretty crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 No goals and no assists, aye, he's doing canny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Found someone as bad as Shola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 He's an absolute fucking carthorse. Shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 He is just average, average pace, average jumping, average control, average heading, average hold up play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 He is just average, average pace, average jumping, average control, average heading, average hold up play. Average what? Premier League player? Not even close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Average is such an overused word, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Average is such an overused word, like. I put this in the "football pet hates" thread ages ago. Annoys me, particularly as I sometimes find myself using it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 He is just average, average pace, average jumping, average control, average heading, average hold up play. Shite pace, shite jumping, shite heading, decent control Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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