Disco Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Any idea why Cleverley was starting ahead of Ramsey? Or was it just further evidence of Pearce's ineptitude? Had 3 good games for Man United at the start of the season ergo best future English midfielder. Said it on here before but I've never seen anything from him to justify any of the hype he has had. Totally agree, if he wasn't English and playing for Man United nobody would have battered an eyelid. Don't get me wrong he's not shit, he's a tidy midfielder with scope to get better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I have never seen anything from Cleverley that suggests that he'll become anything more than a decent player. Ramsey, I like a lot. I thought he was injured or something when I saw he wasn't in the starting XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I have never seen anything from Cleverley that suggests that he'll become anything more than a decent player. Ramsey, I like a lot. I thought he was injured or something when I saw he wasn't in the starting XI. Had very high hopes for him, but every time I saw him last season he really stunk up the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Ramsey started alright but really tired it seemed and just went downhill, may not be ready for being a starter but has potential still imo. As for Cleverley, obviously rated at Man U but hmmmm, we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Cleverley was outstanding for us when on loan. But that was a while ago and injuries may have impacted him since. Definitely loads of potential there, he hasn't suddenly turned into a player devoid of prospects since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Million miles away from the likes of Oscar, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Most likely, yeah. But don't forget that the team Brazil put out was a side that's played together in a coherent system before. 'Team GB' looked clueless. Much more difficult to stand out as an individual if the collective is seriously non-functional. Not to say that Cleverley etc. are necessarily on a par with their Brazilian counterparts, but that the difference isn't as pronounced as it perhaps appeared, as a result of the lack of familiarity with tactics/teammates and so on. Personally, the midfielder who impressed me most for Team GB was Jack Cork. And I've seen him quite a lot and know he's nothing more than a solid if unspectacular player who'll, one day, play for a top half PL side regularly, as his experience grows. The balance and maturity he brought to the midfield suggested less that he's a brilliant midfielder, but that Stuart Pearce had it all wrong in the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Motherwell 1 - 1 Everton A bad goal by Shane Duffy cancelled out by a Nicky "the best we've ever saw" Law wonder half-volley in front of a rapturous 4120 at Fir Park. James McFadden played and Phil Neville was accused of being a paedophile. All in another fun day out in Motherwell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 These the same commentators on the Liverpool game on ESPN? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 These the same commentators on the Liverpool game on ESPN? Aye. Concorde, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Not only is that ridiculously lazy, they've been making just as many mistakes apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I have never seen anything from Cleverley that suggests that he'll become anything more than a decent player. Ramsey, I like a lot. I thought he was injured or something when I saw he wasn't in the starting XI. I thought Cleverley was great in his brief run at CM for Man Utd, shame he's been hurt so much. I'm far more unsure of Ramsey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I think Ramsey was hurt by Arsenal's dismal form at the beginning of the season, which I think it wasn't certainly entirely his fault. He drew a lot of criticism and it affected him, in my opinion. I think that once he gains confidence and assuredness he'll go to be a very good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Ramsey's form was at the start of the season. Then dipped on from there. (He was brilliant in the 5-3 against Chelsea) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 All those games towards the end where Wenger moved him to the left didn't really help him either. He's central as a central midfielder can be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 hello Toronto beating Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Just seen blackburn lost at accrington Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 If you're really desperate for a football fix, Falkirk v Middlesbrough is on channel 168 at 4pm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Toluca up 2 - 0 on Chivas. Good goal just now. When does the season start? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Red Bull Salzburg just been knocked out of the Champions League by a team from Luxembourg, hardy fucking har. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Norwich have just scored a last minute winner against Celtic. Grant Holt it was that scored. Hughton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Red Bull Salzburg just been knocked out of the Champions League by a team from Luxembourg, hardy fucking har. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Stoke play Columbus Crew tonight, it's being streamed on the Crew site... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Stoke play Columbus Crew tonight, it's being streamed on the Crew site... Who would watch that shit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Danubio v Olimpia about to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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