huss9 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 would have more sympathy for pardew if he didnt come out with negative bollocks that he does. he has used the injury situation to rewrite history. we were just as bad earlier this season with saylor, cabaye, and ben arfa in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Everything he's saying in the press points to man accepting of defeat, consigned to relegation. These remarks are the tip of the iceberg, bigging up a relegation rival is one thing, but there's no way he should telling the press that we need new faces because our current 11 isn't good enough. True or not, that's very damaging to morale. Has he actually had anything positive to say in recent days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The change is quite noticeable - I remember when he first took over one of the things I liked best about him was he never complained about injuries - would say it was an opportunity for another player instead. Get the impression this season is really grinding him down - the approach he knows isn't working any more and he's really struggling to adapt. Good thing is that if he does get through this spell he should be a lot stronger/wiser for it, but the signs aren't too good right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The change is quite noticeable - I remember when he first took over one of the things I liked best about him was he never complained about injuries - would say it was an opportunity for another player instead. Get the impression this season is really grinding him down - the approach he knows isn't working any more and he's really struggling to adapt. Good thing is that if he does get through this spell he should be a lot stronger/wiser for it, but the signs aren't too good right now. Can't disagree with any of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 rumours that Nigel Adkins is going to be replaced at Southampton. I think he would be a good manager for us. (And fits the criteria that Ashley normally wants as well) Yeah, can imagine Southampton reject given lots of time by our support. It's mental at times. I guy who has just been sacked for not meeting the expectations of Southampton FFS. I know we're all depressed at the minute, but come on. Southampton who are above us with a dire squad and who gave us a footballing lesson when we played them? Ludicrous comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 rumours that Nigel Adkins is going to be replaced at Southampton. I think he would be a good manager for us. (And fits the criteria that Ashley normally wants as well) Yeah, can imagine Southampton reject given lots of time by our support. It's mental at times. I guy who has just been sacked for not meeting the expectations of Southampton FFS. I know we're all depressed at the minute, but come on. Southampton who are above us with a dire squad and who gave us a footballing lesson when we played them? Ludicrous comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I know this isn't true but listening to Pardew's comments sometimes, it's almost as if he wants us to go down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Do you think they are already preparing for relegation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I know this isn't true but listening to Pardew's comments sometimes, it's almost as if he wants us to go down Had similar thoughts myself. Just shows what a bad job he's doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Remember when he said Reading will stay up no problems after the away game because they kicked our arses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 For all those who want shot of Pardew - who exactly is going to replace him? I can't see managers queuing up to work under a regime where you can build a decent squad and then watch as transfer window after transfer window your best players are touted out to all and sundry? I don't think Pardew is a great manager, but this season is mostly down to the fact we didn't strengthen in the summer despite knowing we had a weak squad and despite knowing we were in Europe. We got Debuchy for a million less or whatever in Jan, but thats not gonna help if we go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 For all those who want shot of Pardew - who exactly is going to replace him? I can't see managers queuing up to work under a regime where you can build a decent squad and then watch as transfer window after transfer window your best players are touted out to all and sundry? I don't think Pardew is a great manager, but this season is mostly down to the fact we didn't strengthen in the summer despite knowing we had a weak squad and despite knowing we were in Europe. We got Debuchy for a million less or whatever in Jan, but thats not gonna help if we go down. I like how you try and make a case for Pardew and use touting our players as a reason other managers might not come, he was the one touting them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 For all those who want shot of Pardew - who exactly is going to replace him? I can't see managers queuing up to work under a regime where you can build a decent squad and then watch as transfer window after transfer window your best players are touted out to all and sundry? I don't think Pardew is a great manager, but this season is mostly down to the fact we didn't strengthen in the summer despite knowing we had a weak squad and despite knowing we were in Europe. We got Debuchy for a million less or whatever in Jan, but thats not gonna help if we go down. I like how you try and make a case for Pardew and use touting our players as a reason other managers might not come, he was the one touting them. Who has Pardew touted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Who has Pardew touted? Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Who has Pardew touted? Ba. I could be wrong, but the only quotes I remember from Pardew about Ba were along the lines of him hoping he stays and urging the fans to persuade him to stay. Everyone knew about the release clause thanks to Harry-fucking-Redknapp so it was only a matter of time before someone invoked it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Do you think they are already preparing for relegation? Wouldn't had signed Debuchy if we were tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Who has Pardew touted? Ba. I could be wrong, but the only quotes I remember from Pardew about Ba were along the lines of him hoping he stays and urging the fans to persuade him to stay. Everyone knew about the release clause thanks to Harry-fucking-Redknapp so it was only a matter of time before someone invoked it. You are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I could be wrong, but the only quotes I remember from Pardew about Ba were along the lines of him hoping he stays and urging the fans to persuade him to stay. Everyone knew about the release clause thanks to Harry-f***ing-Redknapp so it was only a matter of time before someone invoked it. I'm not going on about the clause again, it's been covered to death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think unless we win the Europa or have a storming second-half of the season, Pardew is finished here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think unless we win the Europa or have a storming second-half of the season, Pardew is finished here. No chance. All he has to do is stay up to guarantee himself at least another year. And arguably rightly so. Ignoring the actual football we play (the last thing I'd imagine Ashley cares about) we've had one average half a season, one great season and one shite season. As long as we don't go down, he deserves the right to see if the 5th was a complete fluke or if there's really something decent in there worth building on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think unless we win the Europa or have a storming second-half of the season, Pardew is finished here. No chance. All he has to do is stay up to guarantee himself at least another year. And arguably rightly so. Ignoring the actual football we play (the last thing I'd imagine Ashley cares about) we've had one average half a season, one great season and one s**** season. As long as we don't go down, he deserves the right to see if the 5th was a complete fluke or if there's really something decent in there worth building on. Agree with that Dave. Although I have to say I don't think some of AP's recent media comments will have been well received by Ashley and his posse, it is apparent (from his running of SD) that Ashley does give people he trusts a better than fair chance. But if it gets to the point when he has lost faith in them he doesn't bat an eyelid before getting rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He might get away with stuttering to survival this season. I think if we're not competing the top 8 next season though, he's had it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He might get away with stuttering to survival this season. I think if we're not competing the top 8 next season though, he's had it. i think if we just survive this season with the performances we are pulling out the summer might do for him IF ashleys finds a suitable (ie fits his criteria) replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 If we survive this season he won't be sacked and even then he might still not be sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Based on the results and performances this season he certainly deserves to be sacked. No idea what's going on in Ashley's mind or how secure he is but the drop-off in performances and results has been so dramatic that I'd expect A.N.Other club to have either fired him or be loading the bullet as we speak. Personally, I have no faith whatsoever that he can pull the situation around. He's totally mismanaged the team this season and the string of excuses he's reeled off has been embarrassing. He's negative beyond belief and I think some of the players have lost faith in him too (no basis to that, just a hunch). He can't fix this. We may well stay up this season but as long as he's running the team then the same problems will occur. He's dead man walking as far as I can see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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