toontownman Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Have to stick with him til summer. Can't change now, that would be a greater gamble than keeping him. Not a chance we could or likely would bring anyone in that could turn things around this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 he need to be sacked. No he doesn't. He actually got us playing well at times in the last months and we started getting results again. Thing is, he's very focused now on the Europa League and, who can blame him? It's a great chance we have to bring a trophy to SJP finally after all those years. No-one will care if we survive by 1 single point in the league but won the Europa League. Thing also is, that we have two very winnable home games now in a row that should see us getting 6 points and therefore bing absolutely safe. We still haven't been playing that well though. He still hasn't addressed the issue of service to whoever our centre forward is on any given day. It's been a problem all season and not one he looks like he knows how to resolve. The lack of service for Cisse is something I'd totally agree with. Still, to say he should be sacked after losing at the Etihad is over the top. Especially not when you know that he's concentrating on the Euro League and (it seems) on the winnable games in the league. It is about the season and the way he has us set up, not about today. In a season where he had to field 31 different players, which is the most of all in the league - which just shows how bad our injury situation has been throughout the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I'm not even going into his ability or lack of ability. It's just strange that every team we play against including minnows all seem to play good football when we play against them. That tells you everything about his style of management, over cautious, turtle in a shell mentality of football . It's bearable at best when it yields results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Needs to go at the end of the season if someone better is willing to take the job, which is unlikely. Why is it unlikely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 he need to be sacked. No he doesn't. He actually got us playing well at times in the last months and we started getting results again. Thing is, he's very focused now on the Europa League and, who can blame him? It's a great chance we have to bring a trophy to SJP finally after all those years. No-one will care if we survive by 1 single point in the league but won the Europa League. Thing also is, that we have two very winnable home games now in a row that should see us getting 6 points and therefore bing absolutely safe. We still haven't been playing that well though. He still hasn't addressed the issue of service to whoever our centre forward is on any given day. It's been a problem all season and not one he looks like he knows how to resolve. The lack of service for Cisse is something I'd totally agree with. Still, to say he should be sacked after losing at the Etihad is over the top. Especially not when you know that he's concentrating on the Euro League and (it seems) on the winnable games in the league. I'm going to say he deserves to be sacked because the team is shit and punching well below it's weight. We're 3 points off the the drop with 7 games to go. Is that fair? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Needs to go at the end of the season if someone better is willing to take the job, which is unlikely. Why is it unlikely? For the same reason our last 4 managers have been Pardew, Hughton, Shearer and Kinnear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 he need to be sacked. No he doesn't. He actually got us playing well at times in the last months and we started getting results again. Thing is, he's very focused now on the Europa League and, who can blame him? It's a great chance we have to bring a trophy to SJP finally after all those years. No-one will care if we survive by 1 single point in the league but won the Europa League. Thing also is, that we have two very winnable home games now in a row that should see us getting 6 points and therefore bing absolutely safe. Rubbish we had two winnable home games against Swansea and West Ham also - poor manager with the best squad of players this club has had in ten years and we're still in a relegation battle. For every Chelsea there have been a Swansea, Stoke, Wigan and we did not play that well against Southampton or Villa either. His negative tactics puts us on the back foot ever single game and an average of 0.5 points per way game is frankly a disgrace!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Needs to go at the end of the season if someone better is willing to take the job, which is unlikely. Why is it unlikely? For the same reason our last 4 managers have been Pardew, Hughton, Shearer and Kinnear. Look at how our squad has evolved since Pardew's tenure as manager though. No reason to say that the same can't happen with future managers. The ability of the squad has outgrew him massively, it's as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Needs to go at the end of the season if someone better is willing to take the job, which is unlikely. Beggars belief this like. Our recruitment is the envy of the all the teams in the league that aren't mega rich. We absolutely could attract a better manager than Alan Pardew man, without a doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Needs to go at the end of the season if someone better is willing to take the job, which is unlikely. Beggars belief this like. Our recruitment is the envy of the all the teams in the league that aren't mega rich. We absolutely could attract a better manager than Alan Pardew man, without a doubt. I've no faith in this lot whatsoever to bring in anyone up to the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 he need to be sacked. No he doesn't. He actually got us playing well at times in the last months and we started getting results again. Thing is, he's very focused now on the Europa League and, who can blame him? It's a great chance we have to bring a trophy to SJP finally after all those years. No-one will care if we survive by 1 single point in the league but won the Europa League. Thing also is, that we have two very winnable home games now in a row that should see us getting 6 points and therefore bing absolutely safe. You can't just switch good form on and off, good play brings good results, which breeds confidence. No doubt Pardew will go to Lisbon on a damage limitation exercise after that shite, and I'll be amazed if we don't get spanked. Praying for better, but it's not going to happen under this clown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bert Shaft Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Dunno what yer all worried about!. Alan said that we were safe a couple of weeks ago. He couldn't be wrong could he..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Re mentality, I can only compare it to my personal work situation I suppose - if I've got a difficult meeting with a client and my boss tells me I'm going to get an arse-kicking then it'll happen, I'll get an arse-kicking. I'll be prepared for the arse-kicking but I'll still get my arse kicked. If instead she focuses on the positives then I can make the best of a bad situation and actually do something productive/constructive, etc. It's not rocket science. This raging negativity is utterly depressing to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 He should rightfully be gone at the end of the season, I have no idea what people think is going to happen if we sack him now though. It's a massive gamble in itself. I agree unfortunately, need to stick with him until then and hope to fuck we stay up. Head agrees, heart wishes we'd sack him by the time I wake up today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Genuinely think talk of him being replaced is laughable. If this season is repeated then there's a slight possibility we'll make a change but otherwise he's here for the long term. His ambitions match those of the club perfectly; pushing this 'punching above our weight' agenda all the time. We can't compete and we don't. The worrying thing for me is that the new players are making less of an impact with every game we play. Was there a honeymoon period? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Needs to go at the end of the season if someone better is willing to take the job, which is unlikely. Beggars belief this like. Our recruitment is the envy of the all the teams in the league that aren't mega rich. We absolutely could attract a better manager than Alan Pardew man, without a doubt. I've no faith in this lot whatsoever to bring in anyone up to the job. That's understandable, I'm positive we could get someone better if we wanted to though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Needs to go at the end of the season if someone better is willing to take the job, which is unlikely. Beggars belief this like. Our recruitment is the envy of the all the teams in the league that aren't mega rich. We absolutely could attract a better manager than Alan Pardew man, without a doubt. I've no faith in this lot whatsoever to bring in anyone up to the job. They'd be struggling to find anybody equivalent or worse than Pardew imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Needs to go at the end of the season if someone better is willing to take the job, which is unlikely. Beggars belief this like. Our recruitment is the envy of the all the teams in the league that aren't mega rich. We absolutely could attract a better manager than Alan Pardew man, without a doubt. I've no faith in this lot whatsoever to bring in anyone up to the job. That's understandable, I'm positive we could get someone better if we wanted to though. We could buy someone to fill the gaping gaps out wide if wanted, mate. We've had numberous windows to do it and we never do. It took us 5 years to spend more than £1m on a CB fffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Needs to go at the end of the season if someone better is willing to take the job, which is unlikely. Beggars belief this like. Our recruitment is the envy of the all the teams in the league that aren't mega rich. We absolutely could attract a better manager than Alan Pardew man, without a doubt. I've no faith in this lot whatsoever to bring in anyone up to the job. It may be a completely baseless opinion but I really do think they would prefer to work with a British manager and we would therefore be stuck with another Pardew clone. I cannot imagine them going out onto the continent and picking up a Laudrop, but I hope I'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Beggars belief this like. Our recruitment is the envy of the all the teams in the league that aren't mega rich. We absolutely could attract a better manager than Alan Pardew man, without a doubt. I have no doubt that we could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 It depends what the criteria for a new manager is. In the past it's been who's the cheapest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Needs to go at the end of the season if someone better is willing to take the job, which is unlikely. Beggars belief this like. Our recruitment is the envy of the all the teams in the league that aren't mega rich. We absolutely could attract a better manager than Alan Pardew man, without a doubt. I've no faith in this lot whatsoever to bring in anyone up to the job. It may be a completely baseless opinion but I really do think they would prefer to work with a British manager and we would therefore be stuck with another Pardew clone. I cannot imagine them going out onto the continent and picking up a Laudrop, but I hope I'm wrong. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Genuinely think talk of him being replaced is laughable. If this season is repeated then there's a slight possibility we'll make a change but otherwise he's here for the long term. His ambitions match those of the club perfectly; pushing this 'punching above our weight' agenda all the time. We can't compete and we don't. The worrying thing for me is that the new players are making less of an impact with every game we play. Was there a honeymoon period? I agree with you, I don't accept it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Genuinely think talk of him being replaced is laughable. If this season is repeated then there's a slight possibility we'll make a change but otherwise he's here for the long term. His ambitions match those of the club perfectly; pushing this 'punching above our weight' agenda all the time. We can't compete and we don't. The worrying thing for me is that the new players are making less of an impact with every game we play. Was there a honeymoon period? Sorry Dave agree with you about Ashley will not sack, Pardew but I think the way our players are being coached to play is abysmal. His over use of Jonas and Obertan is a crime and we have talented players who are being asked to play negatively from the off. The last time we took a lead in a game was Villa and every single game we are on the back foot from the off. His record in management over a long period proves he is not good manager and never will be but unfortunately Mr Ashley does not agree and there lies the problem! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I reckon even bastarding Souness could get more out of this squad than this plank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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