Guest fraser Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 What an upgrade he has proven to be. When today's performance is compared to Hughton's last match against Sunderland I cry thanks to heaven that we have him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Which of the 3 goals were down to Pardews inefficiency? Playing Jonas at left back was definitely the cause of the first goal. He gave the ball away with a simple pass, he wasn't caught out positionally which is what you could complain about Pardew playing him at left back. Astonishingly bad posts KDT. Honestly man, you have to watch the game and not the highlights to draw the conclusion that Pardew was at fault for a lot today. I also don't think there's been a massive swing towards him because solely of this performance. The whole seasons has been embarrassing. Get rid of him come summer and start fresh. I'm not against getting rid of Pardew to start again in the summer, I just don't think today can solely be based on Pardew. I watched the full game and not just the highlights, we got caught out by Sessegnon again dropping into space like what happened in the last derby at home. Is that the one Pardew was also in charge for? And something i've been saying for months, despite playing three in CM, we still leave a massive space in front of our DC's. Tactically it's rank bad. I thought it was extraordinary today, for a lot of the second half we were playing in a square with the back four and two up front and the entire midfield hugging the touchline. The players looked terrified of going into the tight central midfield cluster of mackems. See this is where Tiote/Perch/Anita (not so much) should be, in front of the DC's, win it give it. If you intend to push your fullbacks on then it's a position that must be filled, we do the complete opposite. We get teams breaking on us or a player picking the ball up behind our midfield so often it's scary. It's so bad tactically that i can't believe Pardew thinks it ok. Well saying that sums him up really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 What an upgrade he has proven to be. When today's performance is compared to Hughton's last match against Sunderland I cry thanks to heaven that we have him. Yep his last game at West Brom was phenomenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Mick preferred Nile Ranger. He was showing promise and I was wrong and will not try to pretend that I was always right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 eurgh, still not been sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Complete charlatan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fraser Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 What an upgrade he has proven to be. When today's performance is compared to Hughton's last match against Sunderland I cry thanks to heaven that we have him. Yep his last game at West Brom was phenomenal. It was miles better than today's shite. Can we sack him on that basis please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fraser Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 no. Because you never had any in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Everything internally at the football club - currently anyway - revolves around finishing 8th as "par" Hopefully still true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 no. Because you never had any in the first place? I didn't have a basis or? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Get the fuck out! Those who still want him in charge need some professional help tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 He wants to make sure that the result "hurts the players". I don't think they need him to be hurt by it. The older guard will have known all about the importance of this game, and will have left the newbies under no illusion as to what it means to us. What PRdew needs to do is sit through re-run after re-run of the match with the entire first team squad, and go through every single point/incident/tackle/50-50 that gave them an edge. He should f***ing batter Tiote and Cabaye for constantly playing anywhere BUT center midfield. I understand it's not a static game, but f*** me the amount of free space in the center circle was laughable! Gutierrez should be battered for that wayward pass. He's meant to be an experienced former international. He was playing LB, made the bad pass carrying the ball through the center of midfield, running to the right flank. What in f***ing jah's name is that?? I will not fault Taylor for the first goal, as 9.5 times out of 10 he will put his body on the line and make the block. Tiote's inaccurate passing and ineffective "protecting" of the back 4 should be highlighted for all to see. This guy thinks he's the dog's bollocks, and has been nothing more than a mediocre version of Amdy Faye this season. Completely at fault for one of their goals today (can't remember which, but he failed to make a block, and didn't bother to track his man". Shola Ameobi? I wouldn't even know where to start. He should show him a clip of that fluffed header, and then turn off the monitor. These were supposed to be our big game experienced players. These are the players who have played in the derby before, and knew what it meant. And they let us down big style. Most of the new players can be absolved to a certain degree. Cisse, Marveaux and Ben Arfa couldn't have done much more. MYM, Debuchy and Gouffran have only been here 5 minutes. Lastly, Pardew should take a long long look at himself in the mirror and make his mind up on whether he wants to take this management lark seriously or not. Next week he will have run out of excuses to trawl out, so he will be bricking it. For the sake of this club he needs to pull 2 results out of the bag in the last 5 matches, so he better get to work sharpish. If by some miracle we get 4 points from the next two matches, Mike Ashley should put his foot down and pull the trigger, no two ways about it. Pardew is a charlatan, and it's plain for all to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Everything internally at the football club - currently anyway - revolves around finishing 8th as "par" Hopefully still true. We only have to finish 11th then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Has this cunt not resigned yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Which of the 3 goals were down to Pardews inefficiency? Which of these rankings are down to Pardew's efficiency? http://i.imgur.com/2sKXgME.png I can't get over him being the person who coaches the defence for 4 days out of 5 and we have the 17th ranked defence, it does my head in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Everything internally at the football club - currently anyway - revolves around finishing 8th as "par" Hopefully still true. We only have to finish 11th then. I dont understand 8th - 11th ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Can discuss it until you are a blue in the face but he's not going to get the sack. Good point, he'll be managing us from a luxury care home when he's 85. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 (5+11)/2 = 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 (5+11)/2 = 8 Sorry, Dave. That may as well be the blackboard off Good Will Hunting for my little brain to comprehend. http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1875/einsteink.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Which of the 3 goals were down to Pardews inefficiency? Playing Jonas at left back was definitely the cause of the first goal. He gave the ball away with a simple pass, he wasn't caught out positionally which is what you could complain about Pardew playing him at left back. Astonishingly bad posts KDT. Honestly man, you have to watch the game and not the highlights to draw the conclusion that Pardew was at fault for a lot today. I also don't think there's been a massive swing towards him because solely of this performance. The whole seasons has been embarrassing. Get rid of him come summer and start fresh. I'm not against getting rid of Pardew to start again in the summer, I just don't think today can solely be based on Pardew. I watched the full game and not just the highlights, we got caught out by Sessegnon again dropping into space like what happened in the last derby at home. Is that the one Pardew was also in charge for? And something i've been saying for months, despite playing three in CM, we still leave a massive space in front of our DC's. Tactically it's rank bad. I thought it was extraordinary today, for a lot of the second half we were playing in a square with the back four and two up front and the entire midfield hugging the touchline. The players looked terrified of going into the tight central midfield cluster of mackems. Commented on this a few times at the match. At times when we were in possession there was 3 mackems in the middle of the pitch and no one in black and white anywhere near them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 (5+11)/2 = 8 We'd have to finish 11th first. Can anyone confidently still say we'll finish above the mackems after today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 We were 5th last year, 11th this (in example), so we've made par Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 (5+11)/2 = 8 Ah, i dont think that'll wash with Ashley though. I think 8th is the minimum they were expecting this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Someone tell Pardew that in football he's not meant to be under-par. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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