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I haven't been so glad to see a ref blow in a long time. Ben Arfa's magic today was amazing. And Ba should gtfo with his stupid sulking over not taking the penalty. Ugly to see him just walk off like a spoiled child instead of celebrating with Benny.

 

All in all, even if it was a scrappy game, the second half with the 4-3-3ish formation was like a new team compared to the first half. Bad marking from Simpson when Lennon could just walk in and place the cross though, someone should have watched out for that, and most likely it was Simpsons job.

 

As far as I'm aware isn't Ba our main penalty taker? If so then he should have taken it.

 

Anyway, Ben Arfa was the difference today, he had a great game.

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Ben Arfa and Ba produced the moments of class that won us the game. Otherwise we looked very disjointed, even in the second half, and we have to look to improve. It wasn't a great Spurs side, but they still looked far better on the ball.

 

Got to disagree with Parky on the pen. Professional footballers shouldn't be arguing like a bunch of kids on who takes it. That has to be decided before the game.

 

 

 

Agreed. Hatem can count himself extremely lucky he didn't miss it.

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That was a long hard slog and too many players didnt look fit. But two moments of quality won it. So much for hatem being "way behind the rest" physically. Best player on the pitch. Was just like last season in a way, in that we look slow and off the pace but dug in. As we get stronger we're guna be awesome at home.

 

Disappointed with the marking for their goal. Don't know if it's Ben Arfa or Simpson is to blame but lennon was in miles of space.

 

Shame shola got injured aswell because cisse was shattered 2nd half.

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Ba isn't a great penalty taker. I'm glad HBA took it. Their both grown-ups and friends, don't give a crap if there's momentary on-field football rage/stroppiness. As long as it's not OTT and they move past it, fine.

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Ben Arfa and Ba produced the moments of class that won us the game. Otherwise we looked very disjointed, even in the second half, and we have to look to improve. It wasn't a great Spurs side, but they still looked far better on the ball.

 

Got to disagree with Parky on the pen. Professional footballers shouldn't be arguing like a bunch of kids on who takes it. That has to be decided before the game.

 

 

 

Agreed. Hatem can count himself extremely lucky he didn't miss it.

 

FFS, it's not like HBA is a defender who has never taken any penalties before. Our best penalty taker is probably Shola and in his absence any of Ba, Cisse or HBA are competent enough to put away a penalty. As far as I'm concerned, HBA earned that penalty out of nothing and he had every right to take it. If he miss, then that's just unfortunate. You can't possibly conclude with any certainty that Ba would have scored, in fact if you remember, Ba missed the last penalty he took for us.

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We were poor really for large parts of the game, a lot of players looked not quite ready and we probably got a little bit of luck in the first half. That said, it was a well committed performance and HBA and Ba's quality got us through it. Spurs can probably count themselvves not to get a point, but fuck them we won!  :cheesy:

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Ben Arfa and Ba produced the moments of class that won us the game. Otherwise we looked very disjointed, even in the second half, and we have to look to improve. It wasn't a great Spurs side, but they still looked far better on the ball.

 

Got to disagree with Parky on the pen. Professional footballers shouldn't be arguing like a bunch of kids on who takes it. That has to be decided before the game.

 

 

 

Agreed. Hatem can count himself extremely lucky he didn't miss it.

 

FFS, it's not like HBA is a defender who has never taken any penalties before. Our best penalty taker is probably Shola and in his absence any of Ba, Cisse or HBA are competent enough to put away a penalty. As far as I'm concerned, HBA earned that penalty out of nothing and he had every right to take it. If he miss, then that's just unfortunate. You can't possibly conclude with any certainty that Ba would have scored, in fact if you remember, Ba missed the last penalty he took for us.

 

Isn't it common practice NOT to let the player who won the penalty take it?

 

Either way, these things shouldn't be decided on the pitch, but off it in match preparation, and it was clear from Ba's reaction that he was the designated penalty taker.

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HBA took over when he needed to. That's what you want from a guy like that. He's our point guard.

The point guard is definitely Cabaye or Tiote, but the point is still somewhat valid. Ben Arfa is the one player in our team who is different from the rest. He regularly does things none of the other ten would think of trying. We need to give him space to operate and lead the team forward. He won't ask for the ball the majority of the time, but when he does, it should be given to him. Something is coming.

 

Average performance, but a great result against a side that will be a direct rival if things go to plan. Two moments of brilliance from two people that will need to carry us on at least three fronts this season.

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HBA took over when he needed to. That's what you want from a guy like that. He's our point guard.

The pint guard is definitely Cabaye or Tiote, but the point is still somewhat valid. Ben Arfa is the one player in our team who is different from the rest. He regularly does things none of the other ten would think of trying. We need to give him space to operate and lead the team forward. He won't ask for the ball the majority of the time, but when he does, it should be given to him. Something is coming.

 

Average performance, but a great result against a side that will be a direct rival if things go to plan. Two moments of brilliance from two people that will need to carry us on at least three fronts this season.

 

For me, either HBA or Jonas play that PG role. Jonas is more of a Rondo type, not looking to score, but working hard to maintain possession and distribute.

 

HBA is like CP3. Keeping us in the game, absolutely looking to score but more than capable of finding the right option.

 

Tiote is Ron Artest.

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HBA took over when he needed to. That's what you want from a guy like that. He's our point guard.

The pint guard is definitely Cabaye or Tiote, but the point is still somewhat valid. Ben Arfa is the one player in our team who is different from the rest. He regularly does things none of the other ten would think of trying. We need to give him space to operate and lead the team forward. He won't ask for the ball the majority of the time, but when he does, it should be given to him. Something is coming.

 

Average performance, but a great result against a side that will be a direct rival if things go to plan. Two moments of brilliance from two people that will need to carry us on at least three fronts this season.

 

For me, either HBA or Jonas play that PG role. Jonas is more of a Rondo type, not looking to score, but working hard to maintain possession and distribute.

 

HBA is like CP3. Keeping us in the game, absolutely looking to score but more than capable of finding the right option.

 

Tiote is Ron Artest.

 

Ok wtf is a point guard? And if it's something to do with american football can we please never use it again...

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Ben Arfa and Ba produced the moments of class that won us the game. Otherwise we looked very disjointed, even in the second half, and we have to look to improve. It wasn't a great Spurs side, but they still looked far better on the ball.

 

Got to disagree with Parky on the pen. Professional footballers shouldn't be arguing like a bunch of kids on who takes it. That has to be decided before the game.

 

 

 

Agreed. Hatem can count himself extremely lucky he didn't miss it.

 

FFS, it's not like HBA is a defender who has never taken any penalties before. Our best penalty taker is probably Shola and in his absence any of Ba, Cisse or HBA are competent enough to put away a penalty. As far as I'm concerned, HBA earned that penalty out of nothing and he had every right to take it. If he miss, then that's just unfortunate. You can't possibly conclude with any certainty that Ba would have scored, in fact if you remember, Ba missed the last penalty he took for us.

 

Isn't it common practice NOT to let the player who won the penalty take it?

 

Either way, these things shouldn't be decided on the pitch, but off it in match preparation, and it was clear from Ba's reaction that he was the designated penalty taker.

 

Don't think it's common practice as such, some teams do that when the player fouled was taken down badly and might be affected psychologically. This was the complete opposite, when HBA got the ball from the corner, he went straight for the box, he was looking to get the winner even if it was through a penalty. Far from being affected by the trip in the box, it made him even more confident because he got what he was looking for (a chance to score the winner).

 

As for the designated penalty taker, you're right to the extent that Ba wanted the penalty but whose to say that he was the designated penalty taker? It could be a case of him just wanting to score the winner too. At the of the day, nothing wrong with players wanting to take responsibility to get the 3 points, as long as team spirit is not affected and in this case it wasn't.

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HBA took over when he needed to. That's what you want from a guy like that. He's our point guard.

The pint guard is definitely Cabaye or Tiote, but the point is still somewhat valid. Ben Arfa is the one player in our team who is different from the rest. He regularly does things none of the other ten would think of trying. We need to give him space to operate and lead the team forward. He won't ask for the ball the majority of the time, but when he does, it should be given to him. Something is coming.

 

Average performance, but a great result against a side that will be a direct rival if things go to plan. Two moments of brilliance from two people that will need to carry us on at least three fronts this season.

 

For me, either HBA or Jonas play that PG role. Jonas is more of a Rondo type, not looking to score, but working hard to maintain possession and distribute.

 

HBA is like CP3. Keeping us in the game, absolutely looking to score but more than capable of finding the right option.

 

Tiote is Ron Artest.

 

Ok wtf is a point guard? And if it's something to do with american football can we please never use it again...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/bsp/hi/image_maps/05/9/1127724246/img/image.gif

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Great win. Great start to the season. The good the bad and ugly of our play during the 90 but its the first game of the season so we cannot complain about anything really. HBA looks really up for it which is a good thing for us and a bad thing for the opposition. Jonas, the match winner, Taylor, Krul, and Perch all put in very good performances. Cisse was anonymous but worked hard. Ba scored a very good goal but was sloppy in the main. Tiote and Cabaye seemed unfit. Simpson was average and Santon showed promise. The new boy looks quick and competent on the ball and Obertan was well Obertan. A good all-round afternoon for me. We can take many many positives from this. 4-3-3 all the way Alan mind.

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HBA took over when he needed to. That's what you want from a guy like that. He's our point guard.

The pint guard is definitely Cabaye or Tiote, but the point is still somewhat valid. Ben Arfa is the one player in our team who is different from the rest. He regularly does things none of the other ten would think of trying. We need to give him space to operate and lead the team forward. He won't ask for the ball the majority of the time, but when he does, it should be given to him. Something is coming.

 

Average performance, but a great result against a side that will be a direct rival if things go to plan. Two moments of brilliance from two people that will need to carry us on at least three fronts this season.

 

For me, either HBA or Jonas play that PG role. Jonas is more of a Rondo type, not looking to score, but working hard to maintain possession and distribute.

 

HBA is like CP3. Keeping us in the game, absolutely looking to score but more than capable of finding the right option.

 

Tiote is Ron Artest.

 

Ok wtf is a point guard? And if it's something to do with american football can we please never use it again...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/bsp/hi/image_maps/05/9/1127724246/img/image.gif

 

Jesus. Lock the thread.

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