Cajun Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 If John Terry was born a Geordie and had played for us for over a decade you'd be sucking his wang from here to Kingdom come. Just tell it like it is, man. Of course I would ffs! Look at our defenders over the last decade. That has absolutely no bearing over the fact I rate Rio Ferdinand far more highly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Both at their peaks I do too. Terry's been and is a better defender overall, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Sorry I just completely disagree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio had more ability but Terry isn't no hack.... some of the passes he's done over the years proves he's a lot better technically than people give him credit for. Terry also was leagues above Rio when it comes to leadership and organisation which to me for a defender is more important than talent. Also FYI Terry has been fantastic this season and only 2nd to Mertesacker as far as CBs go for this season. I'd feel a helluva lot better about our chances if he was going to Brazil, so far above the ones that will go its not even funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio had more ability but Terry isn't no hack.... some of the passes he's done over the years proves he's a lot better technically than people give him credit for. Terry also was leagues above Rio when it comes to leadership and organisation which to me for a defender is more important than talent. Also FYI Terry has been fantastic this season and only 2nd to Mertesacker as far as CBs go for this season. I'd feel a helluva lot better about our chances if he was going to Brazil, so far above the ones that will go its not even funny. I agree with this. Though I'd put Adams, Walker and Campbell above the both of them. All high quality central defenders though, we've had some crackers in my lifetime. EDIT: Terry Butcher was absolute quality too, both as a defender and as a leader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Think Terry is getting too much credit this season. For the first half of the season, he was decent at best. Since they've sat a bit deeper and always played a dedicated DM (or two) he's been great. In fact, he's always great when most of the play is ahead of him. When he has to worry about what's behind him that turning circle can get badly exposed. Clearly Rio's been the better player. At his peak he could get into any side in the world more or less. That's never been the case for Terry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Which is why a club with endless resources built their side around him, winning everything in the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 ...with him on the sidelines after getting sent off and wearing his kit & shinnies like a fucking prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Not even worth bothering with this. Just a fundamental incapability of giving credit to someone you resent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Getting past the (I hope purposeful) irony first, I was the one agreeing with you that Rio wasn't the all encompassing better player. Terry is/was a very good player Good work. He's a bellend, like many, doesn't mean anything regarding his general ability though. He's just fun guy to mock due his constant wankery and equally scummy family who love the Tabloids. Naturally you can't see this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Getting past the (I hope purposeful) irony first, I was the one agreeing with you that Rio wasn't the all encompassing better player. Terry is/was a very good player Good work. He's a bellend, like many, doesn't mean anything regarding his general ability though. He's just fun guy to mock due his constant wankery and equally scummy family who love the Tabloids. Naturally you can't see this. They're both very good players. Both equally score high in the cuntery stakes. Not sure I agree with TCD's statement that Rio at his peak would get in any team in the world either . There's always been at least 2 better centre halves in the World than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Getting past the (I hope purposeful) irony first, I was the one agreeing with you that Rio wasn't the all encompassing better player. Terry is/was a very good player Good work. He's a bellend, like many, doesn't mean anything regarding his general ability though. He's just fun guy to mock due his constant wankery and equally scummy family who love the Tabloids. Naturally you can't see this. They're both very good players. Both equally score high in the cuntery stakes. Not sure I agree with TCD's statement that Rio at his peak would get in any team in the world either . There's always been at least 2 better centre halves in the World than him. Can't be bothered to go through the finer details but IMO this is probably true. Just to hoy it out there I'd be interested to see where Jaap Stam would rank on this fake list of greatness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Getting past the (I hope purposeful) irony first, I was the one agreeing with you that Rio wasn't the all encompassing better player. Terry is/was a very good player Good work. He's a bellend, like many, doesn't mean anything regarding his general ability though. He's just fun guy to mock due his constant wankery and equally scummy family who love the Tabloids. Naturally you can't see this. They're both very good players. Both equally score high in the cuntery stakes. Not sure I agree with TCD's statement that Rio at his peak would get in any team in the world either . There's always been at least 2 better centre halves in the World than him. Can't be bothered to go through the finer details but IMO this is probably true. Just to hoy it out there I'd be interested to see where Jaap Stam would rank on this fake list of greatness. Now there was a defender Jeez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 So... does anyone rate Baggio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalToon Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 My favourite player in the nineties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Since it still says "Baggio" in the title... Not a massive Baggio fan. Didn't really get to see much of him at the time and when I've gone back and seen his old games he was a good dribbler of the ball but a little bit underwhelming. Don't get me wrong, still a very good player, but I can't put him up there with the legends. He was like a forward version of Zidane for me, very svelte on the ball, dreamy like almost. Italy have produced some top forwards over the years, forwards of differing styles. The early to mid 90s was boom time in that department throughout the world. Italy had Baggio, Vialli, Ravenelli, Signori, Zola, Del Pierro, Mancini and I'm sure I've missed off others. Baggio was the cream of the crop for me. I'd go along with that - he was far and away the best of a bunch of outstanding Italian forwards. Not a striker, not "just" a number 10 either - as is the case of most of those you've listed. Amazing to think that players of the ilk of Guisseppe Signori (28 caps) and Gianfranco Zola (35 caps) played for their country so few times. Even Baggio "only" got 56 caps - one more than Jermaine Defoe has for England. And in answer to the question, I rate Baggio very highly indeed - he might not be Zidane, but if he had scored that penalty we might very well be saying that he is. Italy 94 was carried to the final by him alone as far as I'm concerned, and he oozed class on the pitch. The sort of player that you want to emulate when playing, and then watch again after the game... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I'd like to nominate Christophe Dugarry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I'd like to nominate Christophe Dugarry. I'll just say that his celebration with the tongue out while someone was pulling his shirt is the only memory I have of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Him being useless for Barça is the only memory I have of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Never in the same league as Totti/Del Piero imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Skull Dugarry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Loved Baggio. Dugarry was shit, a striker who didn't score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Those lobs by Pires against Southampton/Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Was just about to post the same. His goal against Southampton was unreal. Him and Henry were amazing together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Should've been ours before he went to OM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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