Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Our central midfield has been absurdly poor, btw. Everton have "PHIL NEVILLE.....IN MIDFIELD" and they've effortlessly dominated that area of the pitch. Anita and Cabaye have been terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That's the worst 45 i've seen from us since the relegation season. We're going to really struggle this year... Agreed. Can't quite understand what's happened to the team. Cabaye in particular has been a joke all season and today is his lowest point, embarrassing performance. Not that Jonas or Anita have been any better mind. That's at the heart of our problems today. Also, when you play someone like Cisse up front, who can't scrap for balls on his own, you have to rely on the wider team to be fluid and keep the ball that way. Well even at our best last season we never did that, and we don't seem to have the guts or organisation to sit back and hit on the break either. Desperately poor from Pardew, but amazingly we're only a goal down and have created some solid chances. Put a rocket up their arse and we could still get something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Giving them far too much respect, Jonas and Anita are often playing in defence when they have it in midfield. It's fucking Phil Neville and Leon Osman in there, not Xavi and Iniesta. Feel a bit bad for Marv, worst type of game to be thrown in to. He needs replacing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Can the head in the sand gang please wake up and realise that there's more than the formation that's wrong. The players just don't look arsed. The front three behind Cisse have been bloody awful. Spot on. Its true, no desire, no fight, like as if we need just to show up and we'll win. What happened to the team from last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Jonas nad Marveaux have been beyond shite, they're giving the ball away all most every time they have it as well as giving Perch no protection at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Marveaux has offered the precise sum of fuck all and left Perch exposed time after time. Honestly haven't a fucking clue why he's switched Ben Arfa to the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Defensive disarray. Not closing them down quickly enough whereas they're all over its when we're in possession. However, the weather conditions are pretty bad. Get the feeling they might have been playing with the breeze this half and wouldn't be surprised if we look much stronger in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Our three "first names on the teamsheet" missing tonight isn't helping mind. This is the crux of it for me. We can be as self-deprecating as we like, but Everton are fantastic atm. Without any destroyer in midfield, and no interceptor (is that a word?) in defence...well.. that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Very annoyed if we don't win this. Pienaar's selfishness could easily come back to bite us in the arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 nothing wrong with the formation, certain players that are completely out of their depths, marveaux. put jones outwide and stick bigi in the centre. marveaux off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Tell you what though if that Baines doesn't win MOTM then there's no justice. Three cheers for Baines! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Marveaux off, Ba on, 4-4-2 and go back to basics. Think tonight just goes to show that if players aren't performing, the system is irrelevant. Nothing against you here, but it's funny really. If Pards had gone with 4-4-2 people would have been crying out for 4-2-3-1. That's sort of my point. Think the players need to have a look at themselves. Regardless of the fact we've been long-ball, Cabaye, Anita & Marveaux in particular have been awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Very interesting analysis from Neville. Pointing at Williamson being the one leaving the gaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Cabaye has been offered the much promised advanced role and if anything has looked worse! Fucking wake up man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 We never played 433 at Spurs. Aye, we played 4-4-2 at Spurs and at Fulham we had Best on the left and Shola upfront with Guthrie in midfield. Hardly representation of a failing system, in any case tonight's problem is not even bother to press them when they have the ball and Williamson keeps hoofing it to Cisse completely by passing the midfield. If we don't press teams and hoof then we are going to struggle no matter what. There's no point playing a system like this if your going to completely bypass the midfield. Ah, that'll be it then. Nothing to do with not having an outlet up top who can keep possession.. We don't have one though, i'm not sure what your getting at.... with the players we have it makes much more sense to pass through teams like how Everton are doing to us. Just by passing Jonas, Anita, Cabaye, Marveaux and Cabaye is idiotic and goes against the strength of the team. You went all summer saying we shouldn't be in for Carroll and 4-3-3 would be a perfect fit.. 4-3-3 is a perfect fit, if we actually use the strengths of the players and pass through teams and not completely bypass the midfield. If this is the plan for Pardew then i agree Carroll would have been good but i didn't know this. Have to agree I'm absolutely baffled by our insistence on the long ball mind.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Cabaye has been offered the much promised advanced role and if anything has looked worse! Fucking wake up man! The ball has gone over his head literally every attack we've had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Is Pardew allowed into the dressing room at HT btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Cabaye has been offered the much promised advanced role and if anything has looked worse! Fucking wake up man! If he dosent want to play, then he shouldnt be on the fking pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Cabaye has been offered the much promised advanced role and if anything has looked worse! f***ing wake up man! Williamson = Championship player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Can the head in the sand gang please wake up and realise that there's more than the formation that's wrong. The players just don't look arsed. The front three behind Cisse have been bloody awful. thats a bigger problem than anything none of the players look bothered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Everton look a lot like we did last season. Good group of settled players, full of confidence, good system, passing and keeping it for fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 It's really not getting any better... Can't get any worse. Why do I feel someone's going to quote this at full time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Krul definitely would've saved that goal like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 so is the bypassing our better players and just hoofing it the tactic dictated to them by Pardew or are the players shitting themselves/lacking confidence/etc. and ignoring what they're being told? Either way I think Pards needs a supply of tea cups in that dressing room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Absolutely battered. Miraculously it's only 1-0 and we've had some very good chances so we're still in with a shout. Might get a point if we're very lucky. Lottery-esque luck needed tbh. Some points; - Anita's distribution was woeful for a kid that's come through the Ajax system. He should be there to calm and allow us to build. - Cisse hasn't challenged for a header all day. I wouldn't expect him to win many, but at least try to put them off. - Perch/Willo are not Premiership Defenders. We knew this already. - Jonas to the right hand side and Gosling in the middle would do us no harm at the minute. Great credit for trying the new formation. It hasn't worked. We go again. Jonas to the right and Gosling in the middle would safely guarantee this game is lost. Id bring on Bigi to break up the play more and move Anita to left back, Santon to right back to deal with Baines/Pienaar. Then bring Ba on for Marveaux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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