Moussa Sissoko

[TRon]

He scores the odd goal as well.

[Nobody]

He scores the one goal as well.

 

[triggs]

He scores the one goal as well.

Wijnaldum not Sissoko

[Nobody]

He scores the one goal as well.

Wijnaldum not Sissoko

Sorry, didn't read the preceding posts.

[The College Dropout]

Think Wij playing deep has suited him and Liverpool. 

 

He could have played deep for us but it wouldn't have turned the rest of the team into Liverpool standard superstars. Apart from Colback of course.

 

Yes. That's why I said it works for him, at Liverpool.

 

So you now rate him then?

 

I don't know what the 'real' Wijnaldum is tbh. 

 

For us he was an attacking player.  And he spent most of his time hiding.  At Liverpool he's playing in a role we never gave him, in a specialist system with much better players around him. So I don't know. It seems to be working so far at Liverpool.  I don't rate Henderson higher than Wijnaldum and he seems successful in the same system.

[mrmojorisin75]

Think Wij playing deep has suited him and Liverpool. 

 

He could have played deep for us but it wouldn't have turned the rest of the team into Liverpool standard superstars. Apart from Colback of course.

 

Yes. That's why I said it works for him, at Liverpool.

 

So you now rate him then?

 

I don't know what the 'real' Wijnaldum is tbh. 

 

For us he was an attacking player.  And he spent most of his time hiding.  At Liverpool he's playing in a role we never gave him, in a specialist system with much better players around him. So I don't know. It seems to be working so far at Liverpool.  I don't rate Henderson higher than Wijnaldum and he seems successful in the same system.

Where's he playing at Liverpool then, surely not DM?

 

Seems interesting to buy him and not have him trying to score goals like but maybe that's why Klopp is England manager and I'm not.

[Varadi]

Think Wij playing deep has suited him and Liverpool. 

 

He could have played deep for us but it wouldn't have turned the rest of the team into Liverpool standard superstars. Apart from Colback of course.

 

Yes. That's why I said it works for him, at Liverpool.

 

So you now rate him then?

 

I don't know what the 'real' Wijnaldum is tbh. 

 

For us he was an attacking player.  And he spent most of his time hiding.  At Liverpool he's playing in a role we never gave him, in a specialist system with much better players around him. So I don't know. It seems to be working so far at Liverpool.  I don't rate Henderson higher than Wijnaldum and he seems successful in the same system.

Where's he playing at Liverpool then, surely not DM?

 

Seems interesting to buy him and not have him trying to score goals like but maybe that's why Klopp is England manager and I'm not.

 

He's been playing as one of the middle 3 in a 4-3-3

[Figures 1-0 Football]

Think Wij playing deep has suited him and Liverpool. 

 

He could have played deep for us but it wouldn't have turned the rest of the team into Liverpool standard superstars. Apart from Colback of course.

 

Yes. That's why I said it works for him, at Liverpool.

 

So you now rate him then?

 

I don't know what the 'real' Wijnaldum is tbh. 

 

For us he was an attacking player.  And he spent most of his time hiding.  At Liverpool he's playing in a role we never gave him, in a specialist system with much better players around him. So I don't know. It seems to be working so far at Liverpool.  I don't rate Henderson higher than Wijnaldum and he seems successful in the same system.

Where's he playing at Liverpool then, surely not DM?

 

Seems interesting to buy him and not have him trying to score goals like but maybe that's why Klopp is England manager and I'm not.

 

[Pixelphish]

I think Mojo just slipped into another timeline. One for Parky and Mr Logic, this.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Not so much on here, but I do find it weird how Wijnaldum gets a free pass over Sissoko.

 

Sissoko's deluded and him and his gobshite agent undermined the club, but at least when he played you'd notice him and whatever varying level of performance he was giving in each match.

 

Wijnaldum undermined us just as much and had less of a spine than Michael Owen. In the end I completely resented seeing him in the starting XI, and found his cowardly performances much more disrespectful and infuriating and whatever adjective was thrown at Sissoko than I did with Sissoko like. It's not a competition over who's the biggest prick, but I do find the double standards in our fan base as a whole a bit annoying in this case.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Sissoko did alright for us and Wijnaldum wasn't here long enough to even register (and disappeared in most games). Out of the two I definitely have better feelings for Moussa. His only real failing was always chatting to the French media, but it's not like he's the only player who falls into that trap.

[Foluwashola]

Being utterly shit and not really trying could be classed as a failing tbf. Not that I have the energy to really get into it all again like.

[Guest firetotheworks]

It's not that that's in dispute, although I'd argue that him being 'utterly shit' is an utterly shit, and massively exaggerated opinion when the scale of all things over the past few years has included Colback, Taylor, Gouffran, Thauvin, Cabella, and Tiote, all of whom contributed far less than Sissoko. It's more that Wijnaldum in particular had a comparable attitude and contributed nothing aside from 4 against a shit Norwich side and a few other home performances. The criticism of him is far less vociferous, despite him being much more of a lazy, spineless prick imo. At least Sissoko didn't hide, there's nothing worse than a coward.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Probably being a bit relentless and argumentative, because it's been done to death, but it does irk me like.

[Foluwashola]

It's not that that's in dispute, although I'd argue that him being 'utterly shit' is an utterly shit, and massively exaggerated opinion when the scale of all things over the past few years has included Colback, Taylor, Gouffran, Thauvin, Cabella, and Tiote, all of whom contributed far less than Sissoko. It's more that Wijnaldum in particular had a comparable attitude and contributed nothing aside from 4 against a shit Norwich side and a few other home performances. The criticism of him is far less vociferous, despite him being much more of a lazy, spineless prick imo. At least Sissoko didn't hide, there's nothing worse than a coward.

 

Obviously I exaggerate slightly, but my post was more in response to Ian's claim that Moussa's only failing was speaking to the French press. He failed us in so many ways it was almost laughable.

 

Agree entirely that Wijnaldum was a pathetic waster as well. Probably the lesser of the two evils imo though.

[Marmoset]

The better players always get more criticism when results aren't going well. There's probably a psychological reason for it. Not that they both didn't have horrible games at times. Particularly Gini.

[TRon]

Think Wij playing deep has suited him and Liverpool. 

 

He could have played deep for us but it wouldn't have turned the rest of the team into Liverpool standard superstars. Apart from Colback of course.

 

Yes. That's why I said it works for him, at Liverpool.

 

So you now rate him then?

 

I don't know what the 'real' Wijnaldum is tbh. 

 

For us he was an attacking player.  And he spent most of his time hiding.  At Liverpool he's playing in a role we never gave him, in a specialist system with much better players around him. So I don't know. It seems to be working so far at Liverpool.  I don't rate Henderson higher than Wijnaldum and he seems successful in the same system.

 

So Klopp knows a bit more about football than you do, fair enough I wouldn't argue with that.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Henderson's much better than Wijnaldum like.

[TRon]

Henderson's much better than Wijnaldum like.

 

They both have very different roles I imagine.

[KaKa]

Wijnaldum was absolutely shocking last season. Was far more offended by him than I was Moussa. Still don't know what he is as a player, and where you'd want him to play.

 

Delighted we got so much for him and Moussa. Sensational stuff really.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Sissoko is a shit footballer, a typical MOTD highlights player. Watch him for 90 minutes over a season or so and you will see that he really is quite shit. 30m Dick Turpin wore a mask. We got more for Carroll, but this is the biggest sale in our history. Its like free money, money for nothing.

[Guest firetotheworks]

It's meaningless anyway. Different era in terms of the money in football, different circumstances and Ashley is the profiteer, not the squad.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Sissoko not being in the first-team and around the squad is actually beneficial. He was a shit player for us and a bad apple!

[Aiston]

Would still have Sissoko over Diame.

[U2]

Would rather a better player than both.