joeyt Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Imagine his posture if he was 7ft tall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Imagine his posture if he was 7ft tall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Think he gets on very well with Rafa, probably just doesn't want to waste a year of his career in the Championship. I wouldn't blame any of our players for leaving if they had offers from Premier League clubs Even though most of them have been largely responsible for our relegation? Yeah, my fucking heart is bleeding for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellars Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 We don't need him to get promoted. He doesn't want to be here anymore, and other clubs apparently want to pay an inflated price for him, making this more likely than not. Investing his current market value into the squad would increase our longer-term prospects of promotion with players who actually want to be here and fight for promotion. We just need to get the highest price we can for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 If Anita really really cared he'd be 7ft tall. Aye that's similar to what I said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 It might as well have been. A player cannot just hit the weights and transform into a midfield powerhouse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 He's actually in decent shape as is tbh, he's just not that kind of player and never will be. Nothing much that can be done about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 It might as well have been. A player cannot just hit the weights and transform into a midfield powerhouse Don't know why anyone bothers so. If you can't be a midfield powerhouse you might as well be weak as fuck. There is literally nothing inbetween those two points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Anita's in amazing shape like, he's just small. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Here man you're the one who claims he doesn't care because he's fairly lightweight It's just the way he's built and he isn't exactly in bad shape in any case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Here man you're the one who claims he doesn't care because he's fairly lightweight It's just the way he's built and he isn't exactly in bad shape in any case. So there is nothing he could possibly do to get stronger? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Well I mean he could and I assume does work on his strengh like. It's a trade off though, you get bulkier and you potentially lose pace and agility. It's not just strengh that's his problem anyway, he's not a tenatious player like Kante (as the obvious example) and you cannot really teach that. He's never going to be combative in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 But Anita played for Ajax. Would be great for Swansea and that. Technique etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Well I mean he could and I assume does work on his strengh like. It's a trade off though, you get bulkier and you potentially lose pace and agility. It's not just strengh that's his problem anyway, he's not a tenatious player like Kante (as the obvious example) and you cannot really teach that. He's never going to be combative in midfield. Well when you're managing to look as bad as Jack Colback in midfield a lot of the time I think its worth losing a bit of pace to add a bit to the weakest part of your game for your position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 But Anita played for Ajax. Would be great for Swansea and that. Technique etc. He probably would be considering there first choice RB is Kyle Naughton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Well I mean he could and I assume does work on his strengh like. It's a trade off though, you get bulkier and you potentially lose pace and agility. It's not just strengh that's his problem anyway, he's not a tenatious player like Kante (as the obvious example) and you cannot really teach that. He's never going to be combative in midfield. Well when you're managing to look as bad as Jack Colback in midfield a lot of the time I think its worth losing a bit of pace to add a bit to the weakest part of your game for your position I mean I'm not coaching the guy, I don't know exactly how it works but I think if the club wanted him to bulk up they'd give him a diet and training regime which he'd follow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Well I mean he could and I assume does work on his strengh like. It's a trade off though, you get bulkier and you potentially lose pace and agility. It's not just strengh that's his problem anyway, he's not a tenatious player like Kante (as the obvious example) and you cannot really teach that. He's never going to be combative in midfield. Well when you're managing to look as bad as Jack Colback in midfield a lot of the time I think its worth losing a bit of pace to add a bit to the weakest part of your game for your position I mean I'm not coaching the guy, I don't know exactly how it works but I think if the club wanted him to bulk up they'd give him a diet and training regime which he'd follow. Aye and I wouldn't be surprised if Rafa's done that, or else maybe he sees him only as a full back now. Couldn't imagine any of the previous managers he's had here going into that kind of detail so he would've had to have taken the responsibility himself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Going off on a bit of a tangent here but anyway I'll just go along with it. If Anita cared so much he should be working on his overall strength for the last three years or so since he joined the club, maybe if he did he wouldn't get so utterly dominated when he plays in his preferred position of midfield. Lascelles is fair enough because he's in brilliant shape really and hasn't made many errors so far. As for Mitrovic, I've been a bit hard on him in the past at times and think he should do well this season but if he cared as much as people say he does he should have been working on his speed and fitness all last season so we wouldn't have to resort to playing Cisse instead of him in order to close defenders down effectively Didn't Mitro do a load extra sessions with that striker coach? Working on agility, finishing, timing of his runs etc. It's not like he didn't care on the pitch, like some. Is he suddenly going to look like a different type of striker and develop speed, because he does a bit of sprint training? The same as Anita, genetics mean they're not going to turn into a speedster or become a really strong, combative midfielder. As Hanz mentioned with Anita, if he bulked up, he'd lose that bit of quickness and agility he has, which is a decent part of his game. He would arguably look even worse, as he wouldn't be able to press as effectively. Which is arguably one of his better areas (I don't rate him as a midfielder, TBH). As for Mitro, should he be losing a load of weight, getting a tiny bit faster and allegedly fitter? He looked in good shape to me and I didn't think he looked unfit, cardio wise? The trade off would be we'd lose that physical presence up top. I don't really know how you reach these conclusions, either. Do we know what specific training regime both were on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 When is this fucker meant to be back at training? He's going to get such a cold reception from everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Feel the pain of those continuing to defend this bloke. Got myself into a similar hole when representing Pardew. The feeling of utter relief when you accept Sissoko is a deluded, atrocious fuck will be sweet. When we get £20m+ for him you'll have been wrong on both Pardew and Sissoko. But keep piping up, the world needs more clueless pundits convinced they are right even when the truth is right in their face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Feel the pain of those continuing to defend this bloke. Got myself into a similar hole when representing Pardew. The feeling of utter relief when you accept Sissoko is a deluded, atrocious fuck will be sweet. When we get £20m+ for him you'll have been wrong on both Pardew and Sissoko. But keep piping up, the world needs more clueless pundits convinced they are right even when the truth is right in their face. Bizarre statement, what has a fee got to do with anything? We got £35m for Carroll years ago mate, not to mention the fact that it isn't Sissoko's ability I have issue with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 If we get £20m+ for him we'll have done an amazing job, he's never looked anywhere close to that with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 regarding triggs previous page posts, you want Mitro to put on some ankle weights or do sprints with a Jeep Wrangler to get quicker? How exactly do you expect him to go from his current speed to Sissoko's pace? Obviously over exaggerating here. I couldn't let that one go. Bulking up is fair enough but even then there's a limit one can do that and maintain being a professional footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 regarding triggs previous page posts, you want Mitro to put on some ankle weights or do sprints with a Jeep Wrangler to get quicker? How exactly do you expect him to go from his current speed to Sissoko's pace? Obviously over exaggerating here. I couldn't let that one go. Bulking up is fair enough but even then there's a limit one can do that and maintain being a professional footballer. I want him to be fitter. Lose a small bit of strength if you have to because we shouldn't have to rely on bringing back Cisse in order to press effectively. Diego Costa is a similar type body shape who can press effectively. I'm not looking for either player to totally change their body shape, just some changes that could make a big difference to their game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Say that you want someone to get a bit quicker and fitter and the reaction is like you want them to transform themselves into Usain Bolt ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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