Wilson Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 As soon as he wasn't sent off any restrospective action taken again the scumbag mean't actually nothing to NUFC. Who seriously gives a f*** if he got a three match ban - how does that help NUFC? It doesn't. We need to focus anger on the match officials. They f***ed up. They should be punished but yet again it now means nothing to NUFC. Even if Halsey is relegated to doing s*** 2nd division match's for a month or two - SO f***. The moment passed when he wasn't sent off. As I said yesterday, maybe it doesn't help us but I'm sure Haidara lay up somewhere with his leg in a brace fairly f***ing p*ssed off that he's basically been swept under the carpet. He's been on the wrong end of a career threatening challenge and faces a lengthy spell out when the cunt who done it get's to go and play in the cup etc. Moment has passed, what a load of shit. Regardless whether it helps NUFC or not something should have been done about it, it's a f***ing disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Paul Parker on Eurosport... Callum McManaman's tackle on Massadio Haidara was probably the worst tackle I have witnessed in the game. And I've seen a few bad ones being a defender. I could not believe what I was watching on Sunday evening. Was it malicious? Did he mean it? Only he can tell us. If he is honest enough, he might just come out say what was in his head. It was a thuggish and cowardly act. What he is guilty of is absolutely awful, and it seems a joke that he is going to get away game's authorities. You can't even say it was over the top. It went beyond over the top. It is all well and good saying he clipped a piece of the ball, but it was the damage and the force of the challenge that is the problem. The lad might have serious ligament damage around his knee area. That is more serious than a break sometimes because players just can't get over it. They can't do the same things and can be drastically affected by it. It changes your running style and walking style. It then affects other muscles and tendons. In theory, it could be a huge problem for the Newcastle lad in years to come. McManaman's tackle is the worst kind of challenge you could see. I'm really surprised that the Wigan chairman Dave Whelan came out and said what he said. Sometimes it is better not to say anything. The Wigan manager Roberto Martinez has kept quiet, but Whelan has said too much. There is no defence for what McManaman did and all Whelan has done is put himself and his club in a bad light. Some are saying he was immature, that it was his full Premier League debut etc. Well, I've seen a lot of debuts, but I haven't seen a challenge like that. If that was a tackle in a match on a public park on a Sunday morning, you would see the biggest fight and brawl of your life between players. If somebody put a challenge in like that on somebody's team-mate in an amateur match, there would have been a war. McManaman would also have had to come off the pitch a lot sooner than he did in an amateur match because somebody would have tried to hurt him. You can't condone a tackle like that at any level of football. You can't condone the Newcastle assistant manager John Carver for approaching McManaman at half-time, but you can understand his behaviour. Haidara had just come on as a substitute and is trying to make a name for himself in a much improved Newcastle side. 13 minutes later he has to be carried off by something that is more like GBH than a tackle. I heard today he made a horror tackle against Manchester City under-21s. That suggests there is history/ The manager said he is wanting to apologise, but I'd be very surprised if Haidara is interested in an apology. If he is lying there in a hospital bed with his leg up, the last thing he wants is to see that tackle again. I know I don't want to watch it again. I got a chill through my body when it went in, because I have had knee problems. Haidara didn't expect the sole of a size eight boot coming at him with brute force on his standing leg. The referee Mark Halsey and the linesmen must also be reprimanded for their performance. Like McManaman, he needs a lengthy period out of the game to reflect and think about where he is going wrong, but it now looks like nothing is going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Paul Parker on Eurosport... Callum McManaman's tackle on Massadio Haidara was probably the worst tackle I have witnessed in the game. And I've seen a few bad ones being a defender. I could not believe what I was watching on Sunday evening. Was it malicious? Did he mean it? Only he can tell us. If he is honest enough, he might just come out say what was in his head. It was a thuggish and cowardly act. What he is guilty of is absolutely awful, and it seems a joke that he is going to get away game's authorities. You can't even say it was over the top. It went beyond over the top. It is all well and good saying he clipped a piece of the ball, but it was the damage and the force of the challenge that is the problem. The lad might have serious ligament damage around his knee area. That is more serious than a break sometimes because players just can't get over it. They can't do the same things and can be drastically affected by it. It changes your running style and walking style. It then affects other muscles and tendons. In theory, it could be a huge problem for the Newcastle lad in years to come. McManaman's tackle is the worst kind of challenge you could see. I'm really surprised that the Wigan chairman Dave Whelan came out and said what he said. Sometimes it is better not to say anything. The Wigan manager Roberto Martinez has kept quiet, but Whelan has said too much. There is no defence for what McManaman did and all Whelan has done is put himself and his club in a bad light. Some are saying he was immature, that it was his full Premier League debut etc. Well, I've seen a lot of debuts, but I haven't seen a challenge like that. If that was a tackle in a match on a public park on a Sunday morning, you would see the biggest fight and brawl of your life between players. If somebody put a challenge in like that on somebody's team-mate in an amateur match, there would have been a war. McManaman would also have had to come off the pitch a lot sooner than he did in an amateur match because somebody would have tried to hurt him. You can't condone a tackle like that at any level of football. You can't condone the Newcastle assistant manager John Carver for approaching McManaman at half-time, but you can understand his behaviour. Haidara had just come on as a substitute and is trying to make a name for himself in a much improved Newcastle side. 13 minutes later he has to be carried off by something that is more like GBH than a tackle. I heard today he made a horror tackle against Manchester City under-21s. That suggests there is history/ The manager said he is wanting to apologise, but I'd be very surprised if Haidara is interested in an apology. If he is lying there in a hospital bed with his leg up, the last thing he wants is to see that tackle again. I know I don't want to watch it again. I got a chill through my body when it went in, because I have had knee problems. Haidara didn't expect the sole of a size eight boot coming at him with brute force on his standing leg. The referee Mark Halsey and the linesmen must also be reprimanded for their performance. Like McManaman, he needs a lengthy period out of the game to reflect and think about where he is going wrong, but it now looks like nothing is going to happen. Fucking bang on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I wonder what will happen if Mcmanaman does another player in one of wigans next 3 games. It would cause even more mass outrage as he should have been banned. It will look even more terrible on the FA and also could cause more legal proceedings to occur. What a mess it couldbecome simply because the FA cant do anything because a linesman seen 'some of the tackle' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Tiote doing this to Bale; bet things would be different then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Are you being deliberately contrary? Think he does tbh, got a bite off me anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 @Phil_Thompson4: The disciplinary panel who let off Callum Mcmanaman need to be disciplined and the lino needs a 3 game ban Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 That's when you know it was a bad tackle when Thompson is sticking up for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Paul Parker on Eurosport... Callum McManaman's tackle on Massadio Haidara was probably the worst tackle I have witnessed in the game. And I've seen a few bad ones being a defender. I could not believe what I was watching on Sunday evening. Was it malicious? Did he mean it? Only he can tell us. If he is honest enough, he might just come out say what was in his head. It was a thuggish and cowardly act. What he is guilty of is absolutely awful, and it seems a joke that he is going to get away game's authorities. You can't even say it was over the top. It went beyond over the top. It is all well and good saying he clipped a piece of the ball, but it was the damage and the force of the challenge that is the problem. The lad might have serious ligament damage around his knee area. That is more serious than a break sometimes because players just can't get over it. They can't do the same things and can be drastically affected by it. It changes your running style and walking style. It then affects other muscles and tendons. In theory, it could be a huge problem for the Newcastle lad in years to come. McManaman's tackle is the worst kind of challenge you could see. I'm really surprised that the Wigan chairman Dave Whelan came out and said what he said. Sometimes it is better not to say anything. The Wigan manager Roberto Martinez has kept quiet, but Whelan has said too much. There is no defence for what McManaman did and all Whelan has done is put himself and his club in a bad light. Some are saying he was immature, that it was his full Premier League debut etc. Well, I've seen a lot of debuts, but I haven't seen a challenge like that. If that was a tackle in a match on a public park on a Sunday morning, you would see the biggest fight and brawl of your life between players. If somebody put a challenge in like that on somebody's team-mate in an amateur match, there would have been a war. McManaman would also have had to come off the pitch a lot sooner than he did in an amateur match because somebody would have tried to hurt him. You can't condone a tackle like that at any level of football. You can't condone the Newcastle assistant manager John Carver for approaching McManaman at half-time, but you can understand his behaviour. Haidara had just come on as a substitute and is trying to make a name for himself in a much improved Newcastle side. 13 minutes later he has to be carried off by something that is more like GBH than a tackle. I heard today he made a horror tackle against Manchester City under-21s. That suggests there is history/ The manager said he is wanting to apologise, but I'd be very surprised if Haidara is interested in an apology. If he is lying there in a hospital bed with his leg up, the last thing he wants is to see that tackle again. I know I don't want to watch it again. I got a chill through my body when it went in, because I have had knee problems. Haidara didn't expect the sole of a size eight boot coming at him with brute force on his standing leg. The referee Mark Halsey and the linesmen must also be reprimanded for their performance. Like McManaman, he needs a lengthy period out of the game to reflect and think about where he is going wrong, but it now looks like nothing is going to happen. Fucking bang on. Always liked Parker as a player and a person and he's summed up the cowardly tackle and aftermath perfectly there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felling Mag Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Sooooo when will we know how bad the injury is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The lack of action from the FA might just work to punish Wigan than had they received a standard 3-match ban. With a ban, they can move on and focus on the FA Cup and their relegation dogfight, the talk will ease on them sooner rather than later. Instead they are finding themselves under the spotlight with getting away scot-free and Whelan's trash talk. The longer media and fan pressure on them, the more it can potentially harm them. I can only hope karma works out this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 As soon as he wasn't sent off any restrospective action taken again the scumbag mean't actually nothing to NUFC. Who seriously gives a f*** if he got a three match ban - how does that help NUFC? It doesn't. We need to focus anger on the match officials. They f***ed up. They should be punished but yet again it now means nothing to NUFC. Even if Halsey is relegated to doing s*** 2nd division match's for a month or two - SO f***. The moment passed when he wasn't sent off. Are you being deliberately contrary? I think the general idea is that he needs to be punished for potentially wrecking someones career. Whether it gets us three points back is irrelevant. You're post is ridiculous, in fact all your posts in this thread have. So you want revenge on the scouse scum? Thats fine, but, like I suggest, it is of no benefit whatsoever to NUFC if any retrospective punishment was enforced. The FA have made cunts of themselves. If anything positive comes out of this is that maybe a shitstorm that will send the wind of change through the FA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I hear in MLS they retrospectively ban people for everything from bad tackles, to diving, to crowding the referee, not particularly giving a fuck if the referee has seen it or not. Apparently there's an official YouTube channel that shows the reviewed decisions and explains the action taken. Can any fans of the league tell us if this as resulted in referees being undermined and emotionally crushed, and if you never know what the result of a game will be until lawyers have argued about it in court? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Graham Bean, Former FA Compliance Officer, says FA are hiding behind a rule that doesn't apply. Refers to Rule E3 which stats that a player CAN BE charged for misconduct even if the referee has or has not dealt with an incident. Says FA are Cherry Picking and making the rules up as they go along. No reason if they (the FA) wanted to take action they couldn't take action. What the hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Former FA Compliance Officer on Sky Sports slating the FA now and saying that they just make the rules up as they go along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 As soon as he wasn't sent off any restrospective action taken again the scumbag mean't actually nothing to NUFC. Who seriously gives a f*** if he got a three match ban - how does that help NUFC? It doesn't. We need to focus anger on the match officials. They f***ed up. They should be punished but yet again it now means nothing to NUFC. Even if Halsey is relegated to doing s*** 2nd division match's for a month or two - SO f***. The moment passed when he wasn't sent off. Are you being deliberately contrary? I think the general idea is that he needs to be punished for potentially wrecking someones career. Whether it gets us three points back is irrelevant. You're post is ridiculous, in fact all your posts in this thread have. So you want revenge on the scouse scum? Thats fine, but, like I suggest, it is of no benefit whatsoever to NUFC if any retrospective punishment was enforced. The FA have made c***s of themselves. If anything positive comes out of this is that maybe a shitstorm that will send the wind of change through the FA. Maybe its a benefit to see someone punished for their actions? I honestly cant see what your argument. If I was haidara I'd sue the cunt for all he had If there's one thing that will make the FA actually do something it's legal action outside of their control or jurisdiction. Going over their heads to courts will have them scrambling around desperate to not have a precedent set where things like this aren't always dealt with under their complete control, and when they protest the obvious answer will be "Well, if you're not willing to deal with matters like this, it's our only choice." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Where'd you read that, OCK? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Where'd you read that, OCK? Graham Bean, Former FA Compliance Officer, says FA are hiding behind a rule that doesn't apply. Refers to Rule E3 which stats that a player CAN BE charged for misconduct even if the referee has or has not dealt with an incident. Says FA are Cherry Picking and making the rules up as they go along. No reason if they (the FA) wanted to take action they couldn't take action. What the hell. He's on Sky Sports News now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Surely this gives us basis for a legal complaint then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 As soon as he wasn't sent off any restrospective action taken again the scumbag mean't actually nothing to NUFC. Who seriously gives a fuck if he got a three match ban - how does that help NUFC? It doesn't. We need to focus anger on the match officials. They fucked up. They should be punished but yet again it now means nothing to NUFC. Even if Halsey is relegated to doing shit 2nd division match's for a month or two - SO FUCK. The moment passed when he wasn't sent off. Which is exactly my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slippery Sam Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The pic on SSN now shows the ball at the players feet whilst the thug's foot is planted on Haidara's knee. There is no way that this can be construed as 'getting the ball clean as a whistle" as the ball has gone nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 As soon as he wasn't sent off any restrospective action taken again the scumbag mean't actually nothing to NUFC. Who seriously gives a f*** if he got a three match ban - how does that help NUFC? It doesn't. We need to focus anger on the match officials. They f***ed up. They should be punished but yet again it now means nothing to NUFC. Even if Halsey is relegated to doing s*** 2nd division match's for a month or two - SO f***. The moment passed when he wasn't sent off. Which is exactly my point. What mindless drivel, though. A quick look at the bigger picture wouldn't hurt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The pic on SSN now shows the ball at the players feet whilst the thug's foot is planted on Haidara's knee. There is no way that this can be construed as 'getting the ball clean as a whistle" as the ball has gone nowhere. You should probably watch the tackle, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSC Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 As soon as he wasn't sent off any restrospective action taken again the scumbag mean't actually nothing to NUFC. Who seriously gives a f*** if he got a three match ban - how does that help NUFC? It doesn't. We need to focus anger on the match officials. They f***ed up. They should be punished but yet again it now means nothing to NUFC. Even if Halsey is relegated to doing s*** 2nd division match's for a month or two - SO f***. The moment passed when he wasn't sent off. Which is exactly my point. It has little to nothing to do with not "helping NUFC". As many have already stated, it's about punishing people who have done the wrong thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 not sure if giggs... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2296225/Teenager-charged-sending-Twitter-death-threat-Wigan-Athletics-Callum-McManaman-horror-tackle-Newcastle-Uniteds-Massadio-Haidara.html A teenager has been arrested for sending Callum McManaman a death threat as the Wigan winger received a tirade of Twitter abuse after his horror challenge on Newcastle's Massadio Haidara. The 17-year-old, from Ashington in Northumberland, was fined for sending a tweet reading: 'cant wait till you come to st james' #GonnaDie #GetYourFuneralPlannedKid.' McManaman, 21, escaped punishment from the Football Association for the tackle yesterday - a verdict that was met with derision across the football world - but he was bombarded with Twitter abuse. Haidara was carried off on a stretcher as a result of the tackle during Wigan's 2-1 win over Newcastle at the DW Stadium on Sunday. Referee Mark Halsey was unsighted and play continued but because assistant Matthew Wilkes saw the incident and didn't act, the FA could not issue retrospective punishment. However, Newcastle assistant manager John Carver and Wigan coach Graham Barrow were charged with misconduct over a bust-up as the sides went in for half-time. A Northumbria police spokesman said: 'We received a third party report of a malicious communication on Twitter. 'As a result, a 17-year-old boy from Ashington was arrested on suspicion of producing malicious content. 'He was handed a fixed penalty notice.' A Wigan Athletic spokesman added: 'We’ve been made aware of some unsavoury comments made on Twitter. 'We understand that reports were made to the police and they have dealt with the matter. 'No one wants to see this. Everyone’s focus should be on the welfare of the Newcastle player.' The decision not to suspend McManaman means he is free to play in Wigan's FA Cup semi-final with Millwall at Wembley on April 13. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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