taxfree Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Pardewed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Think he's a 'Carr signing'. Not the type of player Pardew wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Think he's a 'Carr signing'. Not the type of player Pardew wants. Well Pardew has mentioned to the effect we need a big dominant CB, which we are desperate for but we got Colo's replacement in first. It's always going to cause some sort of confusion when the manager isn't in full control of transfers but i don't think Pardew will be moaning about the type of players coming in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If we are going to persist with Pardew we need him to at least have a say in who comes in and out. We've spent something like 12m on Anita & MYM and we need to play towards their strengths or else we are just wasting money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If we are going to persist with Pardew we need him to at least have a say in who comes in and out. We've spent something like 12m on Anita & MYM and we need to play towards their strengths or else we are just wasting money. Obertan says hello. I'd rather not. We don't need to fuck up our squad as well. All we need to do now is get rid of Pardew, and sign a few players of course. It'll be overhaul time if he's to have his type of players. Now, and when a new manager surely has to come in sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Think he's a 'Carr signing'. Not the type of player Pardew wants. Well Pardew has mentioned to the effect we need a big dominant CB, which we are desperate for but we got Colo's replacement in first. It's always going to cause some sort of confusion when the manager isn't in full control of transfers but i don't think Pardew will be moaning about the type of players coming in. I'm afraid i disagree there. If he had full control of transfers i don't think he would choose to buy MYM, Anita, HBA, Marveaux or Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If we are going to persist with Pardew we need him to at least have a say in who comes in and out. We've spent something like 12m on Anita & MYM and we need to play towards their strengths or else we are just wasting money. Obertan says hello. I'd rather not. We don't need to f*** up our squad as well. All we need to do now is get rid of Pardew, and sign a few players of course. It'll be overhaul time if he's to have his type of players. Now, and when a new manager surely has to come in sooner rather than later. I don't mean he gets to choose. But he needs some involvement. MYM, Anita & Marveaux are on first team wages being used wrongly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Think he's a 'Carr signing'. Not the type of player Pardew wants. Well Pardew has mentioned to the effect we need a big dominant CB, which we are desperate for but we got Colo's replacement in first. It's always going to cause some sort of confusion when the manager isn't in full control of transfers but i don't think Pardew will be moaning about the type of players coming in. I'm afraid i disagree there. If he had full control of transfers i don't think he would choose to buy MYM, Anita, HBA, Marveaux or Cisse. I'm not saying he would buy those players. I just don't think he's twisting his face and causing a fuss when those players are signed though. From what he says him and Carr seem to have a good working relationship and they talk things through together. It's just always makes things slightly awkward when a manager doesn't have full control of transfers and players maybe bought which the manager wouldn't buy himself. AVB had that problem at Spurs, standard of players wasn't in question but when they aren't your signings it can make things more difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Think he's a 'Carr signing'. Not the type of player Pardew wants. Well Pardew has mentioned to the effect we need a big dominant CB, which we are desperate for but we got Colo's replacement in first. It's always going to cause some sort of confusion when the manager isn't in full control of transfers but i don't think Pardew will be moaning about the type of players coming in. I'm afraid i disagree there. If he had full control of transfers i don't think he would choose to buy MYM, Anita, HBA, Marveaux or Cisse. I'm not saying he would buy those players. I just don't think he's twisting his face and causing a fuss when those players are signed though. From what he says him and Carr seem to have a good working relationship and they talk things through together. It's just always makes things slightly awkward when a manager doesn't have full control of transfers and players maybe bought which the manager wouldn't buy himself. AVB had that problem at Spurs, standard of players wasn't in question but when they aren't your signings it can make things more difficult. It seems you think if he did complain it would be unjustified. Twisting his face and causing a fuss. Tbh, i don't think many managers would want someone buying players for them that they wouldn't pick themselves. We have done this too often (when we've bothered to buy anyone at all). It's got to be in excess for £20m for MYM, Anita and Cisse. I'm sure Pardew could have thought of a different way to spend that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Think he's a 'Carr signing'. Not the type of player Pardew wants. Well Pardew has mentioned to the effect we need a big dominant CB, which we are desperate for but we got Colo's replacement in first. It's always going to cause some sort of confusion when the manager isn't in full control of transfers but i don't think Pardew will be moaning about the type of players coming in. I'm afraid i disagree there. If he had full control of transfers i don't think he would choose to buy MYM, Anita, HBA, Marveaux or Cisse. I'm not saying he would buy those players. I just don't think he's twisting his face and causing a fuss when those players are signed though. From what he says him and Carr seem to have a good working relationship and they talk things through together. It's just always makes things slightly awkward when a manager doesn't have full control of transfers and players maybe bought which the manager wouldn't buy himself. AVB had that problem at Spurs, standard of players wasn't in question but when they aren't your signings it can make things more difficult. It seems you think if he did complain it would be unjustified. Twisting his face and causing a fuss. Tbh, i don't think many managers would want someone buying players for them that they wouldn't pick themselves. We have done this too often (when we've bothered to buy anyone at all). It's got to be in excess for £20m for MYM, Anita and Cisse. I'm sure Pardew could have thought of a different way to spend that. No i think it's good that Pardew has no problem with how the transfer system works at the club and just gets on with it. Many clubs around the world have a similar way of dealing with transfers and it's good that there's no tension between Pardew and Carr. If Pardew was twisting his face and making soundbytes that suggest he's unhappy with the players being signed then you'll have a real problem. As is stands majority of the signings have came in and done very well. Some have started brightly and faded, others have struggled then come on to shine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Pardew didn't even complain publicly about JFK, he's hardly going to speak out against Carr is he? When things go badly, Pardew gets the blame, when they go well Carr gets the glory. I doubt Pards is enamoured about that. And, although i don't rate him, i could understand that. If the club believes in the manager then buy players that suit him. If the club believes in the chief scout then hire a manager who shares a similar view on players. It's not rocket science. It's the simplest of concepts, actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I definitely wouldn't advocate changing our transfer policy to suit an outdated, and frankly shit manager. It's not Carr's fault Pardew can't utilise technical players. We'd have ended up with Darren bent and James Tomkins if pards had his way. Dare I suggest we'd be probably be 7th if we had those two? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 May have been Bent instead of Remy, considering Bent cost about £3m and Remy supposedly cost us around £2m. Was perhaps one or the other knowing our transfer strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I definitely wouldn't advocate changing our transfer policy to suit an outdated, and frankly s*** manager. It's not Carr's fault Pardew can't utilise technical players. We'd have ended up with Darren bent and James Tomkins if pards had his way. Dare I suggest we'd be probably be 7th if we had those two? In sure we would be, doesn't mean we should be anywhere near them two mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Think he's a 'Carr signing'. Not the type of player Pardew wants. Well Pardew has mentioned to the effect we need a big dominant CB, which we are desperate for but we got Colo's replacement in first. It's always going to cause some sort of confusion when the manager isn't in full control of transfers but i don't think Pardew will be moaning about the type of players coming in. I'm afraid i disagree there. If he had full control of transfers i don't think he would choose to buy MYM, Anita, HBA, Marveaux or Cisse. I'm not saying he would buy those players. I just don't think he's twisting his face and causing a fuss when those players are signed though. From what he says him and Carr seem to have a good working relationship and they talk things through together. It's just always makes things slightly awkward when a manager doesn't have full control of transfers and players maybe bought which the manager wouldn't buy himself. AVB had that problem at Spurs, standard of players wasn't in question but when they aren't your signings it can make things more difficult. It seems you think if he did complain it would be unjustified. Twisting his face and causing a fuss. Tbh, i don't think many managers would want someone buying players for them that they wouldn't pick themselves. We have done this too often (when we've bothered to buy anyone at all). It's got to be in excess for £20m for MYM, Anita and Cisse. I'm sure Pardew could have thought of a different way to spend that. With agents fees, wages, foreign aid and the bank bailouts we're looking at hundreds of billions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Pardewed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Think he's a 'Carr signing'. Not the type of player Pardew wants. Someone who isn't a total useless hack then basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If it wasn't for an overrated, loud mouthed, chest beater that Pardew's too scared to drop he would be playing regular and just the type of player that should be partnering Williamson in Colo's absence. I'm sure we wouldn't be getting spanked as much as we are right now. Yes he's a little naive and rash at times but he's young and just needs a run of games to settle and grow. As far as the Pardew/Carr relationship goes I don't want anything to change, I'd much rather Pardew struggle with what he's got and get sacked/leave than upset the apple cart and lose the best scout we've had on our books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 We will see plenty of him after Colo leaves in the Summer. Kind of makes it even more tragic that we aren't bedding him in now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 We will see plenty of him after Colo leaves in the Summer. Kind of makes it even more tragic that we aren't bedding him in now. That's not how it works here though, we continue flogging the dead horse (excuse the pun) until our only option is to throw something new out there and hope it works from day one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Absolutely. How are you finding things at the club at the moment Ian? This isn't a dig at all I'm just wandering what you think of the direction things seem to be going in. More worried recently, just hoping we get a couple of results soon and everything won't look so bad. I've said before that the bigger picture is fairly depressing, and that's coming to the fore more in recent weeks. It's really in these times that the limitations of Pardew get shown up. For a guy who comes across as quite confident I've never understood why he has so little faith in players and struggles so much to arrest a decline. That said, I think injuries are shafting us at the moment, though we are still making selection errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Wonder if he'd be on the bench if René Girard coached us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If Girard was our manager we'd be in the top 7 comfortably. If not higher. IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If Girard was our manager we'd be in the top 7 comfortably. If not higher. IMO. Run a mile we could make europa league :frantic: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 We will see plenty of him after Colo leaves in the Summer. Kind of makes it even more tragic that we aren't bedding him in now. You'd play him with Colo, though, which makes even less sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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