Skirge Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Of course he would, because he's an infinitely better player. Getting silly now this. I think its safe to say Mbiwa & Sissoko both will start straight away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Of course he would, because he's an infinitely better player. Getting silly now this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 It's possible that Pardew will start Taylor against Villa because he's presumably worked hard to return to fitness and is a decent player that knows Colo well, and to throw down the challenge to Yanga-Mbiwa. Also there's no language barrier there, which could be important this early on. Much of that is not the case with Debuchy, who he's known he wanted in his side for at least six months and replaces one of the weakest links in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 It's possible that Pardew will start Taylor against Villa because he's presumably worked hard to return to fitness and is a decent player that knows Colo well, and to throw down the challenge to Yanga-Mbiwa. Not the case with Debuchy, who he's known he wanted in his side for at least six months and replaces one of the weakest links in the team. It's possible, but I'd be surprised. Yanga-Mbiwa has been here for a decent time now and has trained with the team and Colo. There aren't any more suitable games coming up to blood the new lads, he needs to do it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 It's possible that Pardew will start Taylor against Villa because he's presumably worked hard to return to fitness and is a decent player that knows Colo well, and to throw down the challenge to Yanga-Mbiwa. Also there's no language barrier there, which could be important this early on. Much of that is not the case with Debuchy, who he's known he wanted in his side for at least six months and replaces one of the weakest links in the team. It's possible but he's a fucking knacker if he does so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I really don't see why it matters which side a centre half plays, perhaps someone can explain it to me? I played both sides of centre half as a junior and it made no difference. Left footed players tend to prefer the left naturally, same for the right. If you can use both feet you wouldn't care. Colo who is right footed but can use his left very well, plays left of the centre for us. Williamson who left foot is poor plays right as this helps him. Same with Saylor who is right footed with a weaker left foot. Not that hard to work out is it ? It's not that simple though, is it? John Terry has insisted on playing on the left side his entire career despite being right footed. People seem to be against the idea of us signing a left sided centre half because Colo plays on the left, even though he is more comfortable on his right foot. There'll be more examples, I'm sure. But John Terry is comfortable with his left foot, just as Colo is. Your correct about it not being so simple, i know he wasn't a centre back but Maldini played LB despite being right footed, same with Dennis Irwin. The one thing in common about them all, was they were all comfortable with both feet. The only way you knew what the favoured foot was, when they took a dead ball. Obviously some players will prefer the opposite to what you think would be right, but in most cases a left footed centre half would play left. Tbh it's a rather mute point as there aren't that mean lefty's compared to right footers. I say this as a left footed centre half myself, i had no problem playing either side as i was comfortable with my right foot but usually lined up left side. Mike Williamson played on the left for Watford. Him wearing number 6 is no coincidence, he always played as the left sided centre back prior to NUFC. Obviously in the lower leagues he stood out as a very good player, a poor man's John Terry if you will. Well i'm not having 6 as the left sided, thats 5 god dammit. 9 10 11 4 8 7 3 5 6 2 1 Anything other than that in a 4-4-2 is a crime against humanity. Toon style. 9 10 14 7 8 32 3 5 27 2 1 11 being another attacking midfielder, and 4 a hardman who starts instead of 7 or 8 in some games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Anyone think he has the arse to go 3 CB's ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Mbiwa should be the better player and ultimately will be first choice but I would have no concerns about Taylor starting this one. On paper the team is easily picked but given the players will have been here a week or less, taken part in very little training sessions etc.. I wouldn't be shocked or angry if all don't start. With players coming back we still should still have more than enough. If Williamson started ahead of both then I would be pissed off but I really can't see that happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Would love to see a 5-3-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Anyone think he has the arse to go 3 CB's ? No, I'm not sure why he would either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Taylor and Colo at the back, MYM in midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Taylor and Colo at the back, MYM in midfield Williamson up front as a target man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Anyone think he has the arse to go 3 CB's ? I hope he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Anyone think he has the arse to go 3 CB's ? I hope he doesn't. Not saying I want him to, but would take some bottle to try it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I think starting Taylor after so long out would be more of a gamble than Mbiwa tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 The CB' that do start in this game should also start against Chelsea. And Mbiwa must start, the quicker he comes in and adapts the better we're off for the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Would love to see a 5-3-2. That would be as bold as it would be mental IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Pards always banged on about not rushing Taylor and protecting him to get as many games as we can out of him, he has been out ages and had one selection on the bench. I agree its a bigger risk to start him over Mbiwa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Pards always banged on about not rushing Taylor and protecting him to get as many games as we can out of him, he has been out ages and had one selection on the bench. I agree its a bigger risk to start him over Mbiwa. Good point and hamstrings are notorious for going again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 we should keep playing 4 at the back. its not the time to experimenting too much imo. we might have the players now but it should be tried between seasons not now. Colo might leave this summer so we would have to buy the right type for this formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckard 13 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Taylor won't start vs Villa imo, doesn't look ready at all. He's obviously been enjoying his Christmas dinners if the training photos are anything to go by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I really don't see why it matters which side a centre half plays, perhaps someone can explain it to me? I played both sides of centre half as a junior and it made no difference. Left footed players tend to prefer the left naturally, same for the right. If you can use both feet you wouldn't care. Colo who is right footed but can use his left very well, plays left of the centre for us. Williamson who left foot is poor plays right as this helps him. Same with Saylor who is right footed with a weaker left foot. Not that hard to work out is it ? It's not that simple though, is it? John Terry has insisted on playing on the left side his entire career despite being right footed. People seem to be against the idea of us signing a left sided centre half because Colo plays on the left, even though he is more comfortable on his right foot. There'll be more examples, I'm sure. But John Terry is comfortable with his left foot, just as Colo is. Your correct about it not being so simple, i know he wasn't a centre back but Maldini played LB despite being right footed, same with Dennis Irwin. The one thing in common about them all, was they were all comfortable with both feet. The only way you knew what the favoured foot was, when they took a dead ball. Obviously some players will prefer the opposite to what you think would be right, but in most cases a left footed centre half would play left. Tbh it's a rather mute point as there aren't that mean lefty's compared to right footers. I say this as a left footed centre half myself, i had no problem playing either side as i was comfortable with my right foot but usually lined up left side. Mike Williamson played on the left for Watford. Him wearing number 6 is no coincidence, he always played as the left sided centre back prior to NUFC. Obviously in the lower leagues he stood out as a very good player, a poor man's John Terry if you will. Well i'm not having 6 as the left sided, thats 5 god dammit. 9 10 11 4 8 7 3 5 6 2 1 Anything other than that in a 4-4-2 is a crime against humanity. Can't be having that. 6 was left-half in old money, so you can have 6 on the left and 5 on the right, or 5 on the left and 4 (the right-half) on the right. Anything else is Bolshevik nonsense. You Communist bastard. You sir are a crime against everything with that numbering system I didn't invent it, sir, you are trying to change civilisation as we know it! I shall see you with my second and the duelling pistols at dawn. Yours, of course, will not be loaded. Good day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 status on Fifa "A leader of men" Colo the same n Ben arfa "Has that special something" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 love it when a page starts like this, always have to go back and investigate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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