jdckelly Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Is this run of games City (cup), Chelsea home and Spurs away? Or was there another I've forgotten about? He did well in those first two but considering the amount of times Krul dug us out of the shit against Spurs I'll not get excited. He and Williamson are a good combo as Williamson seems a decent organiser and three clean sheets against those teams isn't to be sniffed at. Like I said, the potential is there so I'd rather we at least tried him in his best position but idiot boy seems loathe to do so played vs Liverpool too iirc and got sent off suspended for match vs sunderland (dummet at cb out of desperation i believe) then chelsea and spurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Although they didn't play together much, we never lost with the MYM and Williamson partnership. Also we lost twice in the 9 games he started at CB, both with Coloccini. He was fine at CB with Williamson. To say he never showed anything to be positive about is utter nonsense, he showed plenty of promise alongside Williamson until Pardew dropped for absolutely no reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Although they didn't play together much, we never lost with the MYM and Williamson partnership. Also we lost twice in the 9 games he started at CB, both with Coloccini. He was fine at CB with Williamson. To say he never showed anything to be positive about is utter nonsense, he showed plenty of promise alongside Williamson until Pardew dropped for absolutely no reason. Knew there was some stats lying around there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Ship him out and have another go at getting Jonathan Woodgate back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 MYM wasn't even that bad at full-back like. A damn sight better than Dummett for certain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Fucking joke, this. Small time short sided classic mentality. Although they didn't play together much, we never lost with the MYM and Williamson partnership. Also we lost twice in the 9 games he started at CB, both with Coloccini. He was fine at CB with Williamson. To say he never showed anything to be positive about is utter nonsense, he showed plenty of promise alongside Williamson until Pardew dropped for absolutely no reason. This, 100%. Brainwashed if you don't see how clear it was with these 2. Selling a young CB in favor of a 28, and 2 30+ players who are declining in talent, physicality and are never actually fit for an entire season is shockingly stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 He is popular because Pardew hates him. He has rarely shown much in an NUFC shirt. I do however think he has more potential than any of our other centre halves given his skill set. He's had to play a lot at full back, unfairly, but that doesn't excuse for example why he just threw Eto'o to the ground for no reason, or even playing at centre half against Everton he failed to even attempt to head the ball clear from a big punt downfield. The likes of Taylor have made a similar number of mistakes and yet still remain though, which is inexcusable. For this kid to be 4th choice, particularly in the games where we had nothing to play for at the end of last season, seems utterly bonkers to me. There seems to be a few players who fall into that category eg Abeid, Bigi, MYM, where the belief seems to be that they'd become better players under a better manager. As I say, that seems to be based on hope rather than any evidence on the field. I'd gladly see Taylor replaced as well. However, I think after the Everton debacle, Pardew's faith in MYM was severely shaken, because the player wasn't just bad, he was completely hopeless. You can bank on Taylor producing some kind of performance, even if his style of defending isn't very imposing on the opposition. Colo was hopeless in the Everton game too (a few other matches as well) yet Pardew's faith in him hasn't shaken Typical shite management from Pardew, once he decides your crap, there is no way back even though there is clearly talent/ability there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Just don't understand this loan if it happens. He has figured with the first team in pre-season so he is not considered a dead weight or marginalized like Ferguson, Bigi, Hatem, Marveaux, Obertan and Jonas. There have even been pics with Pardew with his arm around him giving him advice. What and how on earth do we benefit from sending him out on loan. We must be confident of a pretty solid CB coming in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 What a waste!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 What a shame, should be getting a lot of games over the blind faith shown in colo and willo. Still tbh he has had a few shockers in his time, my hope was he'd develop (like Colo) and become a great cb of which he has all the ingredients. Maybe we do plan on bringing him back after the loan with another full season playing under his belt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 More devaluation of our squad overseen by Pardew. I know people don't care about the money, but it's not Ashley's money, it belongs to the club. Ashley will take his loan back and probably double his earnings by the time he leaves Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Don't rate him as highly as the majority seem to, but dear god we better not sell him without at least two suitable replacements coming in. The thought of starting the season with the current defensive options sans MYM is horrifying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Don't rate him as highly as the majority seem to, but dear god we better not sell him without at least two suitable replacements coming in. The thought of starting the season with the current defensive options sans MYM is horrifying. I think that's the reason people are so pissed off, if he goes we'll probably just stick with what we have. If we were actually gonna buy two quality defenders i wouldn't mind it so much, its a waste but i wouldn't mind it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I would still mind when we have an aging 'captain', a complete moron and a very limited footballer staying. They should all arguably be away before MYM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I would still mind when we have an aging 'captain', a complete moron and a very limited footballer staying. They should all arguably be away before MYM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I would still mind when we have an aging 'captain', a complete moron and a very limited footballer staying. They should all arguably be away before MYM. and in the order he lists them preferrably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I would still mind when we have an aging 'captain', a complete moron and a very limited footballer staying. They should all arguably be away before MYM. So depressing to look at it like that, spot on as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I would still mind when we have an aging 'captain', a complete moron and a very limited footballer staying. They should all arguably be away before MYM. and in the order he lists them preferrably Let's hope it is just a rumour but if not, just shows you what little playing pre season means i guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I would definitely get rid of any of our existing defenders before Mapou, including Colo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 They should pay all the wages or fuck off. He should not even be going on loan anyway. Either sell him or give him a chance. Loan helps no one as his value is unlikely to rise above what we paid now anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Surely we won't go into the season with Taylor and Williamson as 2 of our 3 main CB's. Madness if we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 All our CBS bar Mapou have histories of picking up significant injuries. This, plus the lack of cover at right back make this move (especially a loan) absolutely baffling. Pack the fuck in Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 We definitely need to buy a CB if we let Mapou go out, the spectre of Talyor/Willo combining is too terrifying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Pardew said he wasn't going to use that combo again, but if we palm MYM off and don't replace him we're only one injury, suspension or Lorenzian wet dream away from seeing it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I wonder on what basis Pardew has suddenly lost all faith in MYM? He admitted himself that he didn't really deserve to lose his place when Colo became available again, he was in pretty solid form IIRC. When did a £6m asset suddenly become a liability? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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