Unbelievable Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Why so many wanting Martinez? Sure his talk about 'philosophy' and his emphasis on passing is appealing, but he hasn't managed to establish wigan as a safe premier league team. His relegation exploits might be useful short term I suppose, but he wouldn't be my choice on a permanent basis. Regardless of Wigan'a considerable limitations, he hasn't done anything there to suggest he could get us challenging regularly for Europe in a few years time. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 To be frank, I remember his Swansea side and it was pretty great; quite a few promotions too, so he knows how to manage a team that aims to win every game, not one only worried about relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 To be frank, I remember his Swansea side and it was pretty great; quite a few promotions too, so he knows how to manage a team that aims to win every game, not one only worried about relegation. That Swansea team playing in League One was one of the best teams I have seen. Look at Wigans first XI the fact they are in the Premier League Speaks volumes for his ability. Its the old getting players to play above their level. Imagine Ben Arfa, Cabaye etc playing above their level. Also we'd be a decent footballing side. That being said im not sure he'd have any immediate impact and thats what we need at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 He plays three at the back, one of which is Gary Caldwell. No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Current unemployed managers 1: Bert Van Marjick 2: Rijkaard 3. Di Matteo 4: Blanc 5: Adkins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 NolbertoSolano: I will be in England from Feb 12th and ready to help the club if they need my help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 NolbertoSolano: I will be in England from Feb 12th and ready to help the club if they need my help Nolberto Solano @NolbertoSolano Guppy is crossing coach at Mackems to maybe I can do job somewhere? Still unconvinced it's him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 There was a time Solano was the best crosser of the ball in the world. Even better than media darling Beckham for several seasons running and had the stats to back it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Nolberto Solano @NolbertoSolano Guppy is crossing coach at Mackems to maybe I can do job somewhere? Still unconvinced it's him like. Pretty sure it is, he seems to have exchanged messages with lots of footballers (and Piers Morgan). I love how he's played for five teams over here, but we're "the club". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Id go for Martinez, knows what being at th bottom is about and still gets his team playing football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Apologies Was just trying to show that Rijkaard didn't just ride the wave, he took over at a difficult time. Much more difficult than when Pep became manager, for example. Tbf, a retarded panda could guide Barca to a top-2 finish with those players and depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Apologies Was just trying to show that Rijkaard didn't just ride the wave, he took over at a difficult time. Much more difficult than when Pep became manager, for example. Tbf, a retarded panda could guide Barca to a top-2 finish with those players and depth. http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t281/pandaandrea/Panda/Retarded_Panda.png 'Why sure, ah bin dun wut you said the same on FIFA already' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smith1__ Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Shearer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Apologies Was just trying to show that Rijkaard didn't just ride the wave, he took over at a difficult time. Much more difficult than when Pep became manager, for example. Tbf, a retarded panda could guide Barca to a top-2 finish with those players and depth. Enough to guide you to salvation with the players you have too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Current unemployed managers 1: Bert Van Marjick 2: Rijkaard 3. Di Matteo 4: Blanc 5: Adkins I wouldn't touch Bert Van Marjick with a barge pole - he's as non-Dutch as any Netherland's manager i've seen in the top job. He did a Pardew on their n.t., and that he succesfully managed to get a technically gifted squad (with some cracking attacking talent at his disposal) to play junk/anti-football. In this respect he has the Pardew Midas Touch, and encompasses negativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Apologies Was just trying to show that Rijkaard didn't just ride the wave, he took over at a difficult time. Much more difficult than when Pep became manager, for example. Tbf, a retarded panda could guide Barca to a top-2 finish with those players and depth. Enough to guide you to salvation with the players you have too Unfortunately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 A foreign manager when we are struggling against relegation could be a disaster unless he's had previous experience here I reckon. http://wfcolumns.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/houllier-looking-over-his-shoulder.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Current unemployed managers 1: Bert Van Marjick 2: Rijkaard 3. Di Matteo 4: Blanc 5: Adkins I wouldn't touch Bert Van Marjick with a barge pole - he's as non-Dutch as any Netherland's manager i've seen in the top job. He did a Pardew on their n.t., and that he succesfully managed to get a technically gifted squad (with some cracking attacking talent at his disposal) to play junk/anti-football. In this respect he has the Pardew Midas Touch, and encompasses negativity. What a load of crap. During his time at the Holland national team he has broken just about every possible record and had us playing very good football at times. You must have only watched the WC final and Euro campaign and made an argument based on those few matches in isolation to come to such a ridiculous conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 A foreign manager when we are struggling against relegation could be a disaster unless he's had previous experience here I reckon. http://wfcolumns.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/houllier-looking-over-his-shoulder.jpg http://u.goal.com/122900/122929hp2.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 http://www.blick.ch/img/aktuell/origs1095901/1919997145-w644-h600-b2a2a2a/Christian-Gross.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 http://www.blick.ch/img/aktuell/origs1095901/1919997145-w644-h600-b2a2a2a/Christian-Gross.jpg Blimey. He's aged badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 That one's for GM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I'd take Houllier until the end of the season. Probably can't be arsed with the stress with his dodgy heart though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Current unemployed managers 1: Bert Van Marjick 2: Rijkaard 3. Di Matteo 4: Blanc 5: Adkins I wouldn't touch Bert Van Marjick with a barge pole - he's as non-Dutch as any Netherland's manager i've seen in the top job. He did a Pardew on their n.t., and that he succesfully managed to get a technically gifted squad (with some cracking attacking talent at his disposal) to play junk/anti-football. In this respect he has the Pardew Midas Touch, and encompasses negativity. What a load of crap. During his time at the Holland national team he has broken just about every possible record and had us playing very good football at times. You must have only watched the WC final and Euro campaign and made an argument based on those few matches in isolation to come to such a ridiculous conclusion. I'm not writing off his tourney qualification record, because that is pointless if you want to look at it like that, in isolation from a stats angle. Unforgiveable that VBM never gave his charges a chance at the WC final, and i thought they flattered to deceive in the earlier rounds too. And his tightening of the shackles at the Euros (inviting opp teams to apply pressure, and outplay them), with the technical ability at his disposal in midfield, shed some light into the mentality of the man ie. not backing the team's strengths in crunch situations. in this context i don't rate him that much higher than Pards. He's higher profile, with the cv to match, but he exudes negativity on the big occasion. On a footballing philosophy basis, and.believing in it & trusting the talent at one's disposal in the crunch, he's not fit to lace the boots of Rijkard (who doesnt get enough credit for what Pep inherited & built on at barca) et al - irrespective of records, and some of the up & coming managers mentioned in this thread (and others), notably Laudrup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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