Who would you go for?

[Interpolic]

All of Ashley's managerial appointments so far have been very English. For that reason I still find it hard to get my head around him appointing a foreign coach.

 

My source of hope is that the only players we'd brought in under the new scouting system when Pardew arrived were Tiote and Ben Arfa.

 

He's switched the player recruitment to mainly forrins, so maybe he'll follow suit with the manager if he has any sense.  Suspect it depends on how much influence Carr has.

[Dave]

Ashley has never paid for a manager and I don't see him starting now. Does Carver have a UEFA Pro licence? If he does, I can see us being without a permanent appointment until the summer barring a disaster within the next month or so that threatens our PL status.

 

The only thing that might change that is the fact he's received cash for pardew Lolz.

 

Wages on the other hand....

 

Receiving additional cash doesn't change our player recruitment, so I'm doubtful it would change our manager recruitment either.

[LV]

I bet even Ashley doesn't know who he's going to appoint.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

From what I've been told or heard of KK was promoted to him by Sir John Hall, Kinnear was recommended by Wise, Hughton was basically a no brainer and always the caretaker even when full time manager and Pardew was recommended by Llambias. The one appointment that was all Ashley was Shearer? At the moment he trusts Carr more than anyone so it's going to be someone he recommends in my opinion. Bear in mind he entrusts Carr with the entire player recruitment side of the club which is arguably the biggest area of operations.

[lovejoy]

probably already been said, but this next managerial move will show ashleys intentions for us, as in, what he plans to do with the club in the next two years or so.

 

I think he may stick with Carver until summer and then sell us.

 

This is based on absolutely nowt by the way!

[toontownman]

Carr is surely as respected as anyone at the club given his background and 8 year contract. While he was here for 8 months before Pardew was appointed I doubt he was fully consulted. Hopefully over time he has become more trusted to Ashley. Pretty sure he will be directly involved in the manager hunt and process.

 

I can't see our system being changed and as such a foreign coach seems the most natural fit. Ashley won't want to gamble with another British manager that won't work within his structure. It's also a chance to save some face, which is much needed. It's a statement of intent either way. If it's a horrific appointment he is obviously on the way out.

[LV]

From what I've been told or heard of KK was promoted to him by Sir John Hall, Kinnear was recommended by Wise, Hughton was basically a no brainer and always the caretaker even when full time manager and Pardew was recommended by Llambias. The one appointment that was all Ashley was Shearer? At the moment he trusts Carr more than anyone so it's going to be someone he recommends in my opinion. Bear in mind he entrusts Carr with the entire player recruitment side of the club which is arguably the biggest area of operations.

 

I think this is a very good call.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Ashley will want a manager who accepts how HE runs the club and one who doesn't ask questions or demands too much basically. That said I'm sure Ashley wouldn't be averse with someone who can play good football and have us a bit higher in the league. Do not underestimate how much Pardew actually influenced Ashley btw. All in all though, Ashley's plan is for NUFC to be ran at zero cost to him, with the aim to survive in the league and to make do with what is, making profits on player sales etc. while having a ground full. He has no ambition sportingly whatsoever.

[Guest]

Maybe not yet, but will be interesting to see how Robbie Neilson does next season with Hearts in the Premier League.

[jdckelly]

Ashley will want a manager who accepts how HE runs the club and one who doesn't ask questions or demands too much basically. That said I'm sure Ashley wouldn't be averse with someone who can play good football and have us a bit higher in the league. Do not underestimate how much Pardew actually influenced Ashley btw. All in all though, Ashley's plan is for NUFC to be ran at zero cost to him, with the aim to survive in the league and to make do with what is, making profits on player sales etc. while having a ground full. He has no ambition sportingly whatsoever.

Ashley manager requirements:

Don't get relegated

don't get in europa league-could hurt league position and cost the club more money than its worth

be prepared to have your best player sold every window

don't expect him to be replaced properly

don't expect any input at all in the players being bought (or sold)

never criticise him or club policy and indeed praise both to the highest heavens

don't expect a respectable wage for the level your working at.

 

So who fills all that

[Dave]

@CaulkinTheTimes

#Nufc want Pardew's successor to be 'head coach' rather than manager - a tracksuit boss whose priority will be improving the players he has.

 

Surely they have to consult Carr then?

[Skeletor]

Tracksuit boss? He's gonna appoint someone from Sports Direct then?

[astraguy]

i wish we showed some ambition and went for Jürgen Klopp before arsenal

[Guest JS]

So who is in Ashleys circle of trust at the club now? Colo, Carr, Beardsley(?) and Charnley?

 

If that egg faced Penfold looking cunt isn't completely useless, and Carr has some - any - input in this, I can't help but feel it might be Galtier; previous links, outside choice / kept quiet, would probably work with Carrs players. More in hope of it not being another clueless washup / gambler known by the MD / ex-player / internal promotion and being left in the hands of Llambias

[Ryan]

Please not Steve Bruce.

[Deuce]

@CaulkinTheTimes

#Nufc want Pardew's successor to be 'head coach' rather than manager - a tracksuit boss whose priority will be improving the players he has.

 

Surely they have to consult Carr then?

 

Oh, I see what you're getting at, George. You sly dog you.

 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/09/article-2305846-192320F8000005DC-560_306x423.jpg

[Unbelievable]

From what I've been told or heard of KK was promoted to him by Sir John Hall, Kinnear was recommended by Wise, Hughton was basically a no brainer and always the caretaker even when full time manager and Pardew was recommended by Llambias. The one appointment that was all Ashley was Shearer? At the moment he trusts Carr more than anyone so it's going to be someone he recommends in my opinion. Bear in mind he entrusts Carr with the entire player recruitment side of the club which is arguably the biggest area of operations.

 

Derek Llambias and Joe Kinnear may no longer work for the club, but you can rest assured they will be in Ashley's ear about this, unfortunately.

[TRon]

All of Ashley's managerial appointments so far have been very English. For that reason I still find it hard to get my head around him appointing a foreign coach.

 

My source of hope is that the only players we'd brought in under the new scouting system when Pardew arrived were Tiote and Ben Arfa.

 

He's switched the player recruitment to mainly forrins, so maybe he'll follow suit with the manager if he has any sense.  Suspect it depends on how much influence Carr has.

 

Yeah, that does make sense, it made sense a long time ago tbh. It would be nice to actually have a manager who understood how to get the best of the players we are signing, forrin or not.

[Dave]

@CaulkinTheTimes

#Nufc want Pardew's successor to be 'head coach' rather than manager - a tracksuit boss whose priority will be improving the players he has.

 

@CaulkinTheTimes

Just my reading of it, but I'd imagine that would rule out a few usual suspects. The search is on - and not confined to the UK.

 

@DamianSpellman

@CaulkinTheTimes Hearing exactly the same.

[Mole_Toonfan]

@CaulkinTheTimes

#Nufc want Pardew's successor to be 'head coach' rather than manager - a tracksuit boss whose priority will be improving the players he has.

 

Surely they have to consult Carr then?

 

In theory that's very good news, but you never know quite what that could mean.

[Interpolic]

@CaulkinTheTimes

#Nufc want Pardew's successor to be 'head coach' rather than manager - a tracksuit boss whose priority will be improving the players he has.

 

Surely they have to consult Carr then?

 

[joeyt]

@CaulkinTheTimes

#Nufc want Pardew's successor to be 'head coach' rather than manager - a tracksuit boss whose priority will be improving the players he has.

 

Surely they have to consult Carr then?

 

Oh, I see what you're getting at, George. You sly dog you.

 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/09/article-2305846-192320F8000005DC-560_306x423.jpg

 

if the cap fits

[Skeletor]

@CaulkinTheTimes

#Nufc want Pardew's successor to be 'head coach' rather than manager - a tracksuit boss whose priority will be improving the players he has.

 

@CaulkinTheTimes

Just my reading of it, but I'd imagine that would rule out a few usual suspects. The search is on - and not confined to the UK.

 

@DamianSpellman

@CaulkinTheTimes Hearing exactly the same.

 

[triggs]

i wish we showed some ambition and went for Jürgen Klopp before arsenal

Stop reinforcing the stereotype man

[Unbelievable]

@CaulkinTheTimes

#Nufc want Pardew's successor to be 'head coach' rather than manager - a tracksuit boss whose priority will be improving the players he has.

 

@CaulkinTheTimes

Just my reading of it, but I'd imagine that would rule out a few usual suspects. The search is on - and not confined to the UK.

 

@DamianSpellman

@CaulkinTheTimes Hearing exactly the same.

 

 

Aye, that doesn't sound too bad at all. I guess it also rules out some names at the other end of the spectrum. I doubt the likes of Frank de Boer and Thomas Tuchel, men with growing reputations who need to make their next move count if they want to move up in the world of football management, would consider coming here to be 'head coach'.