Guest zicomartin Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I think most of our problems are pretty basic. We just need a proper central midfielder in midfield to 'control' the game. Like Medhi Abeid. Then a 'passer' or 'ball player' next to him, like Anita, or even Colback (with some proper coaching to show himself to receive a pass). This is where JC is such an idiot (playing Raylor and Jonas in CM). Everytime we are chasing the game, JC just empties the midfield for more 'wingers wiv fret'. And we subsequently concede more. It isnt even that complicated, just deny the opposition control of the midfield and they probably wont score. Yet the dumbnuts in charge can only manage 1 point in eleven games, when we only ever needed 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 At this point I just want everything to burn. It's all a complete mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Laudrup doesnt want to go to a midtable club like West Ham. Another one off the non existent list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Laudrup doesnt want to go to a midtable club like West Ham. Another one off the non existent list Good job we aren't midtable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 And he loves falling out with the board over spending/ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Don't understand why people would want Laudrup and couldn't stand the thought of mcclaren. Their records are pretty similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 This opinion might be a little optimistic and bases entirely on hope but I don't think we're such an ugly prospect for a young manager with ambition. Assuming we stay up Mike will have to spend some decent money even just to get the club back to a safe midtable position. I also don't think the squad is too bad, we've just been left woefully under staffed with a group of coaches with absolutely no tactical know how. If you look at all of the other relegation contenders there's not many from those squads who you'd think will definitely be on the move in the summer. Even if you just take a few players from the squad like Krul, Tiote, Perez, Cabella, Sissoko and Janmaat we have a fairly talented core of players that have performed at two or three times the level of what they're currently producing. Couple that with that fact that if we do stay up we will have an absolutely abhorrent points total while producing some of the most turgid ineffective football going. It wouldn't be too hard for someone to come in who has even the slightest element of tactical know how and make themselves look very impressive. Obviously this is solely dependent on staying up and Mike spending to keep us in the league next year. Neither are certainties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Don't understand why people would want Laudrup and couldn't stand the thought of mcclaren. Their records are pretty similar. Seriously, you "don't understand" that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Jémez says in an interview that talks with Rayo have hit a wall, and that he doesn't believe he's gonna stay there. Says he's got offers. Says he would like to manage in the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Says he's coming to Newcastle and Mike Ashley has promised him £100m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Jémez says in an interview that talks with Rayo have hit a wall, and that he doesn't believe he's gonna stay there. Says he's got offers. Says he would like to manage in the premier league. West Ham it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Don't understand why people would want Laudrup and couldn't stand the thought of mcclaren. Their records are pretty similar. Seriously, you "don't understand" that? nope. care to explain what this huge difference is? between wanting one and detesting the other? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Their stature in the game. You'd much rather play under European Cup winner and one of the best footballers in recent times Laudrup than McClaren surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 This opinion might be a little optimistic and bases entirely on hope but I don't think we're such an ugly prospect for a young manager with ambition. Assuming we stay up Mike will have to spend some decent money even just to get the club back to a safe midtable position. I also don't think the squad is too bad, we've just been left woefully under staffed with a group of coaches with absolutely no tactical know how. If you look at all of the other relegation contenders there's not many from those squads who you'd think will definitely be on the move in the summer. Even if you just take a few players from the squad like Krul, Tiote, Perez, Cabella, Sissoko and Janmaat we have a fairly talented core of players that have performed at two or three times the level of what they're currently producing. Couple that with that fact that if we do stay up we will have an absolutely abhorrent points total while producing some of the most turgid ineffective football going. It wouldn't be too hard for someone to come in who has even the slightest element of tactical know how and make themselves look very impressive. Obviously this is solely dependent on staying up and Mike spending to keep us in the league next year. Neither are certainties. God post St1pe. The last line may be a bit of a stumbling block though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Their stature in the game. You'd much rather play under European Cup winner and one of the best footballers in recent times Laudrup than McClaren surely? maybe, yeah, i can see that point. im not saying laudrup is a bad manager by the way, im just saying his record is pretty similar to mcclarens, domestic cup win etc. i just cant see why people are saying yes to laudrup and treating mcclaren like hes the worst thing in the world. theyve both had ups and downs, pretty similar records, except laudrup doesnt last 5 mins anywhere he goes. if you're basing it on managerial ability and record, theres not a lot of difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 McClarren is also well known for playing shit football, there's just no excitement at all to be had from his appointment. Laudrup could very well fail horribly, but at least he would try to get us playing the right way, which is a start to getting me interested in the game again. It's Hatem Ben Arfa vs Gouffran (even before it was apparent he was totally useless), basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 McClarren is also well known for playing s*** football, there's just no excitement at all to be had from his appointment. Laudrup could very well fail horribly, but at least he would try to get us playing the right way, which is a start to getting me interested in the game again. It's Hatem Ben Arfa vs Gouffran (even before it was apparent he was totally useless), basically. fair point. in terms of record though, laudrup is as much a mixed bag as mcclaren, in fact, mcclaren has probably achieved more with his twente league win, but I take the point entirely on style. derby are meant to play this free flowing on the floor attacking football, which ive never seen whenever ive watched them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 McClarren is also well known for playing s*** football, there's just no excitement at all to be had from his appointment. Laudrup could very well fail horribly, but at least he would try to get us playing the right way, which is a start to getting me interested in the game again. It's Hatem Ben Arfa vs Gouffran (even before it was apparent he was totally useless), basically. fair point. in terms of record though, laudrup is as much a mixed bag as mcclaren, in fact, mcclaren has probably achieved more with his twente league win, but I take the point entirely on style. derby are meant to play this free flowing on the floor attacking football, which ive never seen whenever ive watched them. Aye I think Wullie (?) posted a link up to a rams forum where they were lamenting his play style. I haven't watched them under him tbf, but my memories of him aren't too great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I've seen Derby at least 5 times since pardew left. Awful brand of football consistently. I also saw Laudrup's Swansea against Palace the season he was sacked in the flesh. The performance was average even though they won comfortably. But the style of play was great. Lovejoy is nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I think most of our problems are pretty basic. Yeah. Mike Ashley, Lee Charnley - in that order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I've seen Derby at least 5 times since pardew left. Awful brand of football consistently. I also saw Laudrup's Swansea against Palace the season he was sacked in the flesh. The performance was average even though they won comfortably. But the style of play was great. Lovejoy is nuts. you're right, im fucking barmy me, proper loon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Looking at records alone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Looking at records alone depends which way you look at it i guess. would you take rafa? hardly expansive, in fact, pretty much the opposite, but cracking record, and most would spaff their pants if he came here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 if/when West Ham get Rafa or Jemez.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 if/when West Ham get Rafa or Jemez.... Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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