Ronaldo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I'd rather Aarons got games ahead of him and we sign a couple of attacking players who can play out wide this window. Goes without saying, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 We dicked Ipswich with Zurab Khizanishvili in the side too. You use the 'we won with such and such (Paul Dummett) in the side' all the time, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 If you're referring to me saying we looked much better defensively with Dummett (as opposed to without) at the back end of last season, I'd say that's a bit different to just picking games and saying 'well we won with him, he must be OK'. It's not a relevant comparison, anyway, as I've said long term Dummett isn't the answer at LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Jonas played as a defensive left winger last time we were in the championship, if that's even a thing. He got away with it because Enrique could get forward. This time around Dummett offers nowt going forward, which gives us a double negative on the left. If we can find an attacking left back who can overlap Gouffran we might be ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 People advocating starting Gouffran now, man. This place is a fucking abomination at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Gouffran is a beacon for mediocrity. It's settling for the fat bird who hung around you throughout high school instead of hitting the gym, reading books, developing a sense of humour and a sense of individuality to try getting the bird you really wanted. It's sitting in a job you don't hate but don't love either, for 8 hours a day, waiting until the day you can retire on your pension at 65, and let life pass you by. That's what it's like to see Gouffran starting for us in 2016. We're not settling for the fat bird who hung around though. I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but Gouffran played yesterday because we ran out of other options. Rafa's already indicated that he'll probably move on this month, he was picked yesterday to do a job and that's what he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I'd rather Aarons got games ahead of him and we sign a couple of attacking players who can play out wide this window. Goes without saying, really. Aarons is the one who got a five year contract while Gouffran is probably leaving. It's one game, we got a result, let's just move on and call it job done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Jonas played as a defensive left winger last time we were in the championship, if that's even a thing. He got away with it because Enrique could get forward. This time around Dummett offers nowt going forward, which gives us a double negative on the left. If we can find an attacking left back who can overlap Gouffran we might be ok. But in mathematics double negative is a positive, Pardew surely knows this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 People advocating starting Gouffran now, man. This place is a fucking abomination at times. Unbelievable stuff like he's an unbelievably shit player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Gouffran is a beacon for mediocrity. It's settling for the fat bird who hung around you throughout high school instead of hitting the gym, reading books, developing a sense of humour and a sense of individuality to try getting the bird you really wanted. It's sitting in a job you don't hate but don't love either, for 8 hours a day, waiting until the day you can retire on your pension at 65, and let life pass you by. That's what it's like to see Gouffran starting for us in 2016. We're not settling for the fat bird who hung around though. I don't know how many times this needs to be said, but Gouffran played yesterday because we ran out of other options. Rafa's already indicated that he'll probably move on this month, he was picked yesterday to do a job and that's what he did. If Gouff started to teach Aarons a lesson, at least Aarons could've been brought on at half time. I would rather we play Aarons back into form instead of starting Gouff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leek Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 What was he like today? Going off our twitter account it seemed like he was pretty decent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 What was he like today? Going off our twitter account it seemed like he was pretty decent Put in another good shift apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yeah on the radio was being talked of as one of our best performing players on the day. Albeit what they generally say isn't exactly gospel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Think he will be good at this level, and not being played as a defensive midfielder will help too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abertoon Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Played well - was a bit predictable in final third, first half kept finding himself in a position to take it to the byline and get a cross in but cut back onto his right every time (Feel like a natural left-footer would have had a field day today). Tracked back, got stuck in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Think he will be good at this level, and not being played as a defensive midfielder will help too. I think he's okay to fill in for a few games, but we desperately need a proper wide man in that role. Gouffran will run around willingly enough and put a shift in, but he's not going to trouble a defender or create much going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Think he will be good at this level, and not being played as a defensive midfielder will help too. What would you play him as, then? He's certainly no winger. The sooner we get rubbish like him out of the team and start building for the future the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Rolando needs to up his game / new winger needs to be signed. But happy to see that Gouff is being useful to us at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Couldn't give a shit about Gouffran's perceived level of quality. If Benitez thinks he's good enough to get us promoted, that's fine by me. We can deal with whether he is good enough for the PL if/when we get there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 It might be worth keeping him as a squad player if he is only worth peanuts in the transfer market, and he can put a decent shift in at this level. He is useless in the Premiership of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 A win/loss makes so much difference in here it's ridiculous, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 A win/loss makes so much difference in here it's ridiculous, like. He's still utter shit. If he can put in a 7/10 at this level if we can't get rid of them though, he might be of some use here and there. Ideally we will sign a winger and Gouffran won't be in our 18 man match day squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Honestly I just love wingers and I hate it when that position in the side is filled by talentless grafters who knock the ball sideways 5 yards and then get praised for not being wasteful in possession. Fuck it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Honestly I just love wingers and I hate it when that position in the side is filled by talentless grafters who knock the ball sideways 5 yards and then get praised for not being wasteful in possession. f*** it. This. I want someone fast, who can beat a man and get a good cross in for the strikers. Sometimes it'll come off, sometimes it'll not, but I want someone in that position who at least has the ability to do it occasionally and the desire to do it all of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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