Ryan Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 He hasn't got the pace/acceleration/direct running ability to be a productive winger in this league. I think his best position would probably be in a free role behind the main striker but I'd have Ayoze/De Jong/possibly Gini ahead of him; that €17m would have been so much better spent elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 It's not an excuse as such but it's never easy being a creative player coming in to a team playing like shit and being expected to turn it on straight away because so much rests on you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 It's not an excuse as such but it's never easy being a creative player coming in to a team playing like s*** and being expected to turn it on straight away because so much rests on you. It didn't help him today that he came on so late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 He's making Cabella look effective, fair play to the cunt cos that's some doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 That weak as piss challenge that led to their 3rd goal has really turned me against this fucker! Can't see him ever making the grade in this league. And to think Hatem is burning up the French league... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 It's not an excuse as such but it's never easy being a creative player coming in to a team playing like shit and being expected to turn it on straight away because so much rests on you. I think he just needs to get the basics sorted first. Like using his body to shield the ball when he's under pressure - he could learn a lot from Wijnaldum in this regard. Also not making passes which are too easily cut out by the opposition. He looks shell shocked at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I wasn't really paying much attention by the time he came on but I thought he showed a bit promise tbh. It is possible I was getting him and Perez mixed up like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Just like Cabella, he'll forever be measured against HBA and on that alone I think he's absolutely shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It's not an excuse as such but it's never easy being a creative player coming in to a team playing like shit and being expected to turn it on straight away because so much rests on you. I think he just needs to get the basics sorted first. Like using his body to shield the ball when he's under pressure - he could learn a lot from Wijnaldum in this regard. Also not making passes which are too easily cut out by the opposition. He looks shell shocked at the moment. Yeah this. There's something in his lack of fear to try stuff with the ball that I like but he needs to get basic stuff right first. We could help by giving him game time when we're not up shit creek mind, assuming that comes along again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It's not an excuse as such but it's never easy being a creative player coming in to a team playing like shit and being expected to turn it on straight away because so much rests on you. I think he just needs to get the basics sorted first. Like using his body to shield the ball when he's under pressure - he could learn a lot from Wijnaldum in this regard. Also not making passes which are too easily cut out by the opposition. He looks shell shocked at the moment. Yeah this. There's something in his lack of fear to try stuff with the ball that I like but he needs to get basic stuff right first. We could help by giving him game time when we're not up shit creek mind, assuming that comes along again. Yeah he's trying to create which I can understand, but if you end up hitting defenders legs with every pass or shot then you better contribute defensively to compensate. He's like a poor man's Laurent Robert at the moment. All fart and no shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I know it's still early days for this lad but he hasn't really shown anything yet which is worthy of a mention. The £12/13/14 million (whatever it was) could have been much better spend on an area of the team where we're desperate - A (Commanding) Centre half. Not writing the lad off yet though, that would just be stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Written him off. ^I do all sorts of stupid shit all the time. We've swapped cabella for Cabella -£12m. Inspired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It's not an excuse as such but it's never easy being a creative player coming in to a team playing like shit and being expected to turn it on straight away because so much rests on you. I think he just needs to get the basics sorted first. Like using his body to shield the ball when he's under pressure - he could learn a lot from Wijnaldum in this regard. Also not making passes which are too easily cut out by the opposition. He looks shell shocked at the moment. Yeah this. There's something in his lack of fear to try stuff with the ball that I like but he needs to get basic stuff right first. We could help by giving him game time when we're not up shit creek mind, assuming that comes along again. We could maybe pencil him in for the end of February. Got nothing before that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It's not an excuse as such but it's never easy being a creative player coming in to a team playing like shit and being expected to turn it on straight away because so much rests on you. I think he just needs to get the basics sorted first. Like using his body to shield the ball when he's under pressure - he could learn a lot from Wijnaldum in this regard. Also not making passes which are too easily cut out by the opposition. He looks shell shocked at the moment. Yeah this. There's something in his lack of fear to try stuff with the ball that I like but he needs to get basic stuff right first. We could help by giving him game time when we're not up shit creek mind, assuming that comes along again. We could maybe pencil him in for the end of February. Got nothing before that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 What will a wide man who has no burst of pace,power or conviction do out wide? Amble around the paddock looking like a hybrid of Viana and Luque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He's currently got a guaranteed spot in the flop of the season team. Unless he shows what he has in his locker, regardless of which position he plays, he can keep his place among the flops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 What will a wide man who has no burst of pace,power or conviction do out wide? Amble around the paddock looking like a hybrid of Viana and Luque. It's a bit harsh to say he lacks conviction, but yeah there are issues with his physicality. Early days though. I take comfort from remembering a very similar looking player who I saw on his debut for the toon many years ago. A player who looked far too weak for professional football, and who I dismissed out of hand. His name was Chris Waddle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Thought he looked ok until the third goal. Totally bottled the challenge at the edge of their box, then half-arsed it back, Colback style. His final ball and decision making looks a bit off. But I thought he actually looked quite lively running with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He is exciting - but hopefully he will have learned a lesson from loosing the ball too easily in a dangerous position. And his tracking back was a joke! Sort that out and he could be a great sub when opponents are getting tired. Thats his way into the team atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 What will a wide man who has no burst of pace,power or conviction do out wide? Amble around the paddock looking like a hybrid of Viana and Luque. It's a bit harsh to say he lacks conviction, but yeah there are issues with his physicality. Early days though. I take comfort from remembering a very similar looking player who I saw on his debut for the toon many years ago. A player who looked far too weak for professional football, and who I dismissed out of hand. His name was Chris Waddle. I for one am shocked that your footballing knowledge and judgement were proven to be lacking. Shocked I tell you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He is exciting - but hopefully he will have learned a lesson from loosing the ball too easily in a dangerous position. And his tracking back was a joke! Sort that out and he could be a great sub when opponents are getting tired. Thats his way into the team atm. He's exciting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 What will a wide man who has no burst of pace,power or conviction do out wide? Amble around the paddock looking like a hybrid of Viana and Luque. It's a bit harsh to say he lacks conviction, but yeah there are issues with his physicality. Early days though. I take comfort from remembering a very similar looking player who I saw on his debut for the toon many years ago. A player who looked far too weak for professional football, and who I dismissed out of hand. His name was Chris Waddle. I for one am shocked that your footballing knowledge and judgement were proven to be lacking. Shocked I tell you. I made the Waddle comparison a while back like, more due to an awkward playing style and direct running than anything else. Based on YouTube videos though of course, as he's shown very little for us so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He is exciting - but hopefully he will have learned a lesson from loosing the ball too easily in a dangerous position. And his tracking back was a joke! Sort that out and he could be a great sub when opponents are getting tired. Thats his way into the team atm. He's exciting? i think so. Not fair to judge him yet. Needs to improve parts of his game tbh. Could be another Arfa but hope its not the case. He has shown really exciting stuff - but also the opposite i agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He takes 1 step forward and 3 steps back every time it seems. Made a great run that first time and then did some odd things that looked to have pissed off the staff later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 What will a wide man who has no burst of pace,power or conviction do out wide? Amble around the paddock looking like a hybrid of Viana and Luque. It's a bit harsh to say he lacks conviction, but yeah there are issues with his physicality. Early days though. I take comfort from remembering a very similar looking player who I saw on his debut for the toon many years ago. A player who looked far too weak for professional football, and who I dismissed out of hand. His name was Chris Waddle. I for one am shocked that your footballing knowledge and judgement were proven to be lacking. Shocked I tell you. Once in 30 years it happens. I was probably drunk at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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